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dbr5010

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axel and gears
« on: March 16, 2009, 04:17:51 PM »
I ve got a 95 yj with at and dana 30/35 with 3.73 gears , running 33x12.50 and need more go to it . I have about $ 600 to work with  , should i go for a ford 8.8 with 4.11 in the back for about 250 and regear the d30 for 250 or 300 or go with  new gears in the 30/35 combo ? What would be the best regear in the 30 35 4.56 or 4.88 for what i am running what would you do ?

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Re: axel and gears
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2009, 05:00:06 PM »
If you have a choice, 8.8 and 4.88's. Don't waste money on the D35.

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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2009, 07:48:14 PM »
4.88's are the way to go with 33's. I would agree that spending money on the D35 is a waste. But I'm not sure that a axle swap and regearing would fit your budget.
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2009, 08:22:02 PM »
If your only planning on running 33's, keep the 30/35, they will hold up just fine unless your real stupid w/ the skinny pedal in rocks, just toss in the 4.88s and maybe a locker if you can afford it.

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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2009, 08:54:49 PM »
If your only planning on running 33's, keep the 30/35, they will hold up just fine unless your real stupid w/ the skinny pedal in rocks, just toss in the 4.88s and maybe a locker if you can afford it.

Agreed. Although I too don't reccomend running the 35 forever, I'm stuck with mine for a short while longer... 4:88's was the BEST thing I did for my 4 cyl. I still push my 35's just fine with them too  :weee:
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2009, 11:12:58 PM »
You need to figure on at least $1000 for the regear, probably more by now.  It is the way to go and add a locker- gets rid of the spider gears and carrier; weak points in the D35.  The D35 will do you good if you don't get crazy with the go pedal. Mine has lasted 20 years, and has outlasted the Trac-Loc.  It's been running 33" tires for at least 10 of those years, and it hasn't been babied much.

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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2009, 05:46:32 AM »
You need to figure on at least $1000 for the regear, probably more by now. 

Hard to put a price out there like that, you don't know who's in his area. Theres an Offroad shop here that would do both for 700-800 including gears.

...and let's not do another D35 pissing match.
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2009, 08:12:46 AM »
i just got a quote for 4.88's for my 30/8.8 with superior gears + master install kits and labor is ~$1300, $650 of it is parts.
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Re: axel and gears
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2009, 08:44:14 AM »
i just got a quote for 4.88's for my 30/8.8 with superior gears + master install kits and labor is ~$1300, $650 of it is parts.

Might want to do a little shopping around on those parts prices.
http://completeoffroad.com/c-59913-package-deals-gear-and-install-kits.html

$219 for D30 gears and master install kit
$249 for 8.8 Gears and master install kit
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Re: axel and gears
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2009, 11:05:36 AM »
I want 4.88 but dont have the money to buy the 8.8 and put in new gears , what i was thinking was to buy the 8.8 with 4.10 and regear the 30 to 4.10 or get a 8.8 with 3.73 for about 100 with drum brakes and regear both to 4.88 draw back being the drum brakes

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Re: axel and gears
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2009, 11:25:43 AM »
I'd shop around for installer prices as well.  Don't go to 4x4 shops.  Check out race shops that stock cars, sprinters or drag racers to go.  They will have a lot more experience and are usually cheaper.  Tell them you have the axles out.  That will mean they can do a bench job and not have to tie up a rack to install gears.

Here's what I'd do;  If you're tight on money then buy some used axles or salvage them yourself.  You'll end up with a complete set of spares as well as getting 4.10/4.11 gears for probably less then you'd spend on getting yours regeared.

Option two, would be to search other forums for people who are swapping to D44's or better and are selling off their built stock axles.  They will probably have 4.56's or 4.88's already in them.  Again, you'll still have a complete set of spares.  Which is good if you keep the D35.

Option three, do the 8.8" from a V8 Exploder.  You can get 4.10 gears, disc brakes and an Eaton LSD.

Option four, get the 8.8" from a XLT Ranger.  You'll have 4.56:1 but drums.  These drums are still larger then your stock parts.  Then swap to drums from an Explorer donor.  You can swap drums yourself with minimal tools compared to regearing.

Option five, check forums for people selling Dana 44's or better to upgrade to 1Tons.  These are usually salvaged axles that have been rebuilt to some extent.  Not to mention, they already have all the work done so all you have to to is bolt them up.

Option six, find someone who knows how to install gears. Jeep clubs or friends of friends are probably where you'll find them.  Typically, they will be willing to install gears for under $200 in labor.  Then decide on if you want to regear the stock axles or move to the 8.8".

BTW: I'm guessing you have a 3-speed auto with those gears.
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2009, 01:40:06 PM »
Yes 30rh 3 speed i was getting a 30 /35 with 4.10 for about 250 and they turned out to be 3.07 bad luck ,i can get a 8.8 with 4.11 drums for 200 and get the 30 regeared to 4.10 will that be good for my setup or should get the 8.8 and save for the 4.88 regear . Thanks for all the input by the way.

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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2009, 02:46:23 PM »
Yes 30rh 3 speed i was getting a 30 /35 with 4.10 for about 250 and they turned out to be 3.07 bad luck ,i can get a 8.8 with 4.11 drums for 200 and get the 30 regeared to 4.10 will that be good for my setup or should get the 8.8 and save for the 4.88 regear . Thanks for all the input by the way.
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2009, 10:47:46 PM »
i would go with the 8.8 definitely and wait for the money to get whatever gears you want/  then you have a pair of axles that will easily hold up to 33's/  i have been running an 8.8/hp30 combo with 456's for a while and thrash them pretty hard on 35's and have had no problem

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« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2009, 09:27:19 AM »
Running 33's your not gonna like 4.10/4.11 gears.  You will not have enough power in the 2.5 to run uphill or head winds.  Late last year I had 4.88s put in for around 600.00 (including gears, D30/D35).  With the larger 33 tires it puts me roughly back to stock gearing.  Best upgeade I've made so far.  The D35 is plenty tough with 33's.
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