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hippiejesse

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Jeep Newbie Wants Advice...
« on: April 13, 2009, 05:47:31 PM »
Hello,
I am a new driver, and am POSITIVE that I have to have a jeep. I just need to determine which one. Should I get a YJ or a TJ, will a four-banger have enough get-up-and-go for an individual living in Colorado, or should I find a 6 cyl. Should I look for a soft, or hard top (I want the top off during the warm months.) I am an avid outdoors person, so a jeep is the way to go for me.

Thanks,
I look forward to your input.

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Re: Jeep Newbie Wants Advice...
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2009, 05:57:15 PM »
Buy a I6 if you can.  Depending on your budget that might mean a TJ or a YJ.  (I'd rather have a I6 YJ then a I4 TJ especially in CO.)    As for tops, get a hard top.  It's great when it's cold and when you want the top off you can just remove the whole top.
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2009, 05:58:44 PM »
Colorado has some big mountain passes. The 2.5L does not like the big hill and high altitudes. I lived in the Denver area for many years. Infact I bought my Jeep there. I would say you more than likely will like the 4.0 (6 cyl) over the 2.5L.
YJ's are going to be cheaper than a TJ. If you have the money look for a TJ. A hard top is going to be warmer in the winter and can fairly easily be removed in the summer.
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hippiejesse

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Re: Jeep Newbie Wants Advice...
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2009, 06:09:33 PM »
Thanks guys.
These are all things that I have been thinking as-well. My next question, is the range of travel any better on a TJ than a YJ? And I have heard that the shackles on YJ's have a tendency to break (Not a problem, just need to be aware)
Also, I have no issues with a jeep riding rough. Performance wise, does a YJ have any advantages? Disadvantages?
I would like to spend less initially, so that I can customize a bit...
Also, do you have any years of wrangler that you either recommend, or I should avoid? What is your opinion on the cages on the Pre-1992 Wranglers?

Thanks!


One more thing...
What is considered resonable mileage for one of these? I don't want to have to rebuild until several years from now.
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Re: Jeep Newbie Wants Advice...
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2009, 07:44:48 PM »
Thanks guys.
These are all things that I have been thinking as-well. My next question, is the range of travel any better on a TJ than a YJ? And I have heard that the shackles on YJ's have a tendency to break (Not a problem, just need to be aware)
Also, I have no issues with a jeep riding rough. Performance wise, does a YJ have any advantages? Disadvantages?
I would like to spend less initially, so that I can customize a bit...
Also, do you have any years of wrangler that you either recommend, or I should avoid? What is your opinion on the cages on the Pre-1992 Wranglers?

Thanks!


One more thing...
What is considered resonable mileage for one of these? I don't want to have to rebuild until several years from now.
Shackles do not just break.  Even the stock ones aren't a problem. Most people replace them with heavy-duty ones eventually since they allow for better suspension movement.

Performance is moot.  The TJ's drivetrain is carry over from the YJ's till around 2004.  Then they switched transmission.  The 4.0L did change to a multi-pak coil and the 2.5L was replaced by the 2.4L.  Overall though, it's a wash.

A YJ will be cheaper and with custom leafs, can ride rather smoothly.  Stick with 1991-1995.5's.  Those will have MPFI which are better then the earlier ones.  From 1987-1990 the 2.5L was TBI while the I6 was a carry over 4.2L from the CJ.  The 4.2L isn't a bad engien but the 4.0L is better all around.  The 2.5L TBI's are OK but you'll have more emissions crap on the engine and be down 10HP.  YJ's are cheap to lift and parts are generally cheaper then TJ stuff.  Out of the 1991-1995.5's the 1994-1995.5's are the best.  This is because they upgraded the front U-joints to stronger ones and the clutch hydraulic system went from an internal to an external.  This isn't a deal breaker on a '91-93 though as it can be upgraded over time.

If you plan on having rear passengers then stick with a 1992+ as they will have some protection over their heads.  Otherwise it's moot.  Most people end up adding front leg supports and spreader bars to strengthen even the stock cage.

Mileage, lower is always better.  Rebuild could start around 150K-250K miles.
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Re: Jeep Newbie Wants Advice...
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2009, 07:24:56 AM »
Yeah what Jeffy said. And IMO get a manual. It's more fun in a Jeep!

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Re: Jeep Newbie Wants Advice...
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2009, 07:50:51 AM »
Get a '91 or greater.  I have an '89 and am chasing an electrical issue.   CEL codes didn't come until '91.  Boy could I use some help.

Anyone in the greater New York City area? Queens?  wanna come over and help me chase this gremlin?

Good luck with your new purchase whatever you get

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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2009, 01:32:19 PM »
For a YJ, a '95 is the way to go due to larger front axle u-joints.  If you are willing to pay for a TJ, then a '95 YJ is the oldest you should consider.



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hippiejesse

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Re: Jeep Newbie Wants Advice...
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2009, 03:31:07 PM »
Thank you all for your input.

It sounds like I can get alot more jeep for the money if I get a YJ. While I do like TJ's, I would really like to stick with a six cylinder and the TJ 4.0 tends to be a little out of budget.

Thanks again, and I will post any other questions, or maybe regarding actually buying a specific jeep...

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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2009, 05:51:03 PM »
DONT BUY A JEEP!  They have a tendancy to eat money out-of-your pocket, make you cry like a schoolgirl, stay up too late trying to fix a problem that "takes an hour", and if you do end up selling one; within 6 months they make you buy another because you miss the horrible ride and bad gas mileage and the ability to get up to 70 on the hwy. 

I tried to get away 4 times from Jeeps.  86 CJ (my first love, fiberglass body straight 6, 3'' lift 33's), 95 YJ (4cyl pretty stock), 97 TJ (3'' lift, 33's), 89 YJ (amazingly clean with sweet rims and tires), and currently 91 YJ (just finished doing my "$100 do-it yourself paint job" that costed my $500.  If i had never owned a Jeep I swear I would be rich, or if I stuck with my first one I would have been happy but not rich.  For some reason I wanted power windows, leather and cruise control, stupid me. 

If that doesnt scare you off you can enjoy cruising with the top and doors off and going places nobody else can get to.  Gaining numerous new friends due to "the jeep wave" and getting looks everywhere you go, and the best is that you are original in that your Jeep will not be like any other due to the endless amount of accessories and parts you will end up buying (today paypal took a $300 hit).  I went with clear 4" s/t/t lights with red diodes as my red ones were starting to burn out diodes, new stainless steel rocker panels, a new hood catch and hoop kit as the black didnt look nice on the new paint, of course new JEEP stickers for the new paint, and some neoprene seat covers.  Anyway, thats for another section. 

Back to the point of my rambling, my advice is buy the right one the first time and stick with it.  If you really want a 6cyl TJ and wont be happy with a 4cyl YJ then wait for the right one to come around.  You wont regret buying a Jeep.  If for some reason you do sell it they hold their value really well (at least in NE WI). 

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Re: Jeep Newbie Wants Advice...
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2009, 08:55:24 PM »
Money > :flush:  :roflol: :roflol: :roflol:

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