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Offline FourbangerYJ

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Steering box upgrades
« on: August 27, 2009, 05:03:30 PM »
Looking for ideas to upgrade my steering box. I was thinking of the Dodge Durango box. Also Tommy Lee is not far from me and they make some nice stuff. Not sure on costs thou. What else is out there that is a bolt on upgrade?
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Re: Steering box upgrades
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2009, 05:05:26 PM »
Hmm, I thought the Durango box was an upgrade for TJ'ers?
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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2009, 05:19:38 PM »
I saw a write up on JF where someone put one on a YJ. Other than having 3 mounting holes VS. 4 it seemed to be a direct swap. Even used the YJ power steering lines.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/dodge-durango-steering-box-yj-571945/
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2009, 05:47:21 PM »
If you go Durango try to find one on the Junkyard out of a truck with fairly low milage.
A lot of the rebuilt stuff is very poor quality
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Re: Steering box upgrades
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2009, 05:57:08 PM »
Quote from: FourbangerYJ on August 27, 2009, 05:19:38 PM
I saw a write up on JF where someone put one on a YJ. Other than having 3 mounting holes VS. 4 it seemed to be a direct swap. Even used the YJ power steering lines.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f12/dodge-durango-steering-box-yj-571945/
From what I've read the main reason to do it on a YJ is to get a faster ratio.  The YJ doesn't have the seal issues the TJ's do.

Never heard of anyone breaking a steering box on the trail that didn't already have problems.  Broken frame at the box used to be common on CJ's that see a lot of trails.  Although, if you're replacing a bad box anyway, why not.  Probably be fine with a stock box and a cooler.
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Re: Steering box upgrades
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2009, 06:57:21 PM »
Not sure I need to upgrade. No leaks or funny noise, seems to steer fine. My buddy said he saw some play in the sector shaft. Not sure if this is normal. Not sure how much play he saw.
I have a PS box brace. I have a cooler that has been in the garage for 3-4 years. Even have the fluid to add it. Just have never gotten around to it.
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Re: Steering box upgrades
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2009, 09:30:06 AM »
I find it hard to accept the 3 hole setup.  Would it be significantly weaker or harder on the frame?
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Re: Steering box upgrades
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2009, 10:06:58 AM »
Quote from: Jeffy on August 27, 2009, 05:57:08 PM
From what I've read the main reason to do it on a YJ is to get a faster ratio.  The YJ doesn't have the seal issues the TJ's do.

Never heard of anyone breaking a steering box on the trail that didn't already have problems.  Broken frame at the box used to be common on CJ's that see a lot of trails.  Although, if you're replacing a bad box anyway, why not.  Probably be fine with a stock box and a cooler.

It seems the Durango has a larger bore. Which might make it easier on the pump. Mine has always growled even I was running 31's.

Quote from: neale_rs on August 28, 2009, 09:30:06 AM
I find it hard to accept the 3 hole setup.  Would it be significantly weaker or harder on the frame?
Not sure it would seem that more holes = stronger. The YJ frame is boxed so this adds alot of strenght over the CJ frame. I would think with a steering box brace it would be fine.

But again I am not sure if mine is going bad.

Is it normal to have play in the sector shaft?
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Re: Steering box upgrades
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2009, 10:24:28 AM »
it is normal to have a small amount of play but very little,  dont know the actual spec just know when i see them so cant help you too much but i would keep running it if you are not having problems and find a good deal with the wait and see for the durango box.  then if and when it goes you can just swap it,  plus if you give it time you probably can find a better deal then if you just set out convinced youre getting one now
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Re: Steering box upgrades
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2009, 11:04:11 AM »
just so i know for the future (my steering box is fine for now) - is the Durango one stronger or beefier than the YJ? would that be an upgrade compared to what i have today or just a newer model (and less mileage maybe)?
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Re: Steering box upgrades
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2009, 12:21:17 PM »
Quote from: FourbangerYJ on August 28, 2009, 10:06:58 AM
It seems the Durango has a larger bore. Which might make it easier on the pump. Mine has always growled even I was running 31's.
Growl?  You mean when you max out the steering or are trying to turn with an obstruction like a rock?  Yours growls all the time?
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Re: Steering box upgrades
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2009, 02:21:32 PM »
Quote from: Jeffy on August 28, 2009, 12:21:17 PM
Growl?  You mean when you max out the steering or are trying to turn with an obstruction like a rock?  Yours growls all the time?

While in 4WD when I turn the steering wheel back and forth while driving. It does not do it when in a straight line or a slight turn but when there is alot of steering unput it whines/growls makes noise. Weather there is an obstruction in the trail or if it's a dirt road.
In 2WD it's quite.
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Re: Steering box upgrades
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2009, 02:24:34 PM »
Quote from: sharpxmen on August 28, 2009, 11:04:11 AM
just so i know for the future (my steering box is fine for now) - is the Durango one stronger or beefier than the YJ? would that be an upgrade compared to what i have today or just a newer model (and less mileage maybe)?

It seems to have a larger bore so that should mean it's stronger. The faster ratio is avail in the NON snow plow Durango. The snow plow box is the same steering ratio as the stock YJ box.

I saw a whole smear of them on www.car-part.com They start at $300 and go all the way down to $50. I would imagine that mileage varies. A call to the yard should get you an idea of how many miles it has.
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Re: Steering box upgrades
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2009, 02:53:26 PM »
Quote from: FourbangerYJ on August 28, 2009, 02:21:32 PM
While in 4WD when I turn the steering wheel back and forth while driving. It does not do it when in a straight line or a slight turn but when there is alot of steering unput it whines/growls makes noise. Weather there is an obstruction in the trail or if it's a dirt road.
In 2WD it's quite.
Sounds normal.
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2009, 09:52:29 PM »
yeah i gotta go with jeffy on this one,  if you are causing hard input like up against something or just the pressure of the 4wd pushing on the front end it is going to make some noise,  again i would recommend taking your time looking for a good deal and hang on to it till you have a failure
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