Topic: What do you think about the price on this Used Winch?

[Jeffy]

Most no name winches come from China and are just selected from what the factory makes then a sticker is added.  Very few like the T-Rex are actually built to the companies specs.  A friend of mine got a T-Max for his Jeep when they first came out.  I think it was teh first time he used it and it crapped itself and blew up inside.  Not the motor but the gears.  He went back to Warn after that.  Now that I look for T-Max, they may have gone under or sold or renamed themselves.  I think the "Gorilla/Venon/Viper" is  the same winch as the old T-Max.

Really, if you're going to go cheap you might as well go with a company that's big like Smittybilt or Harbor Freight.

[chrisfranklin]

I wouldn't mind keeping things light-weight.   A synthetic cable would seem to help quite a bit with that, whether its on an 8274 or 8000.  Of course, the 8274 is probably a bit heavier than the 8000, synthetic cable or not. 

[Jeffy]

I wouldn't mind keeping things light-weight.   A synthetic cable would seem to help quite a bit with that, whether its on an 8274 or 8000.  Of course, the 8274 is probably a bit heavier than the 8000, synthetic cable or not. 

One of the problems is that the rope takes a lot more care then with wire rope.  You can leave a wire cable attached to the winch for years and not have any issues.  Wire cables can take a lot more abuse in general and don't need any special care.  Although you could remove the synthetic rope and respool it only when you need it.  A M8000 will weight in around 75lbs, The 8274 is around 90lbs.  Then you add 20lbs or so with the winch plate...

[drunkencityworker]

OK..it is a personel desicion. Like everything else with our beloved jeeps. I was stuck"bad" trying to get in position to give a tug at the badlands during a snow storm. Forgot bout time zone change and after hours on accident. broke a 20,000lb strap and bent a tow hook. Tried the hilift method and moved it 12inches after 45 minutes of "jacking". At that point and time I decided that a winch was my next addition.

In just about all my wheeling experience theres always that guy. You know the guy. Sometimes its me. That knows without a doubt their not going to get thru it. Everybody on the trail is exited to see how far they make it. But then for the next 30-60minutes bummed because there watching yet another unneccesary extraction. Some may even want to take a break after the recovery when the rest of people on train wanna wheel after sitting for an nhour. This is where the 8274 seperates its self from the pack and if you have one people look to you to get er done. The line speed is awesome. When I am spooling in my guy has to let go about 10ft from jeep in fear for his fingures. Less time recovering more time wheeling!

Guy owed me 300 for cage work he never lived up to. Has surplus of parts and gave me an 8274 from 1974. 40 golf cart solenoids and 77 4.6hp motor and new power and ground cables,125ft warn cable and fairlead from new take off from a cat going synthetic and I would say all worth it. Oh plus fabbed an old school cj mount to work for yj.

[drunkencityworker]

I clicked one one of those cheapy winches posted up and line speed was topped at under 25 ft a min. 8274 is 73. When it comes to recovery this isnt the place to cheap out and if you actually wheel you will know this. I would say go warn or possibly superwinch I havnt heard to many bad super winch stories....Theres a hill named after mile marker at cliffs extreme terrain just because guy was ther 1/2 day with slow ass winch

[Jeffy]

For more people line-speed won't matter as long as they get unstuck.  I think too much attention is put on line-speeds.  Before that it was all about winch motor HP.  Then it got crazy when everyone changed out HP was recorded and so it upped their stats from the older motors even if they didn't change the motor.  Then it was about LBS's as many dumped their 9000's for 9.5's when they came out...

On the other hand, most of those cheap winches are slow for a reason.  More then likely, they use cheap motors which is what really matters.  Some winches also use permanent magnets instead of electromagnets in the motors which reduces the amp load but also weakens the motor.

Like with safety gear,  it doesn't pay in the long run to go cheap.

[jfrabat]

There are a couple of things I dont like about the 8274; first of all, they are BIG, which means reduced air flow to the radiator, which is not that great when you live in a permanently hot area...  Also, line speed; it may sound good to have more line speed, but it also makes the winching operation a bit more dangerous (less time to react, more chance to get your hand stuck on the winch).  Of course, the winch is nearly undestructable, which is defenetly a plus.  Personally, I am happy with my Superwinch, but it has yet to stand the test of time the way the 8274 has.

[FourbangerYJ]

Chris, this is a good deal. It won't last!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Warn-M8000-26502-NIB_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dSIQ26ituQ3dUCIQ252BUAQ252BFICSQ26otnQ3d8Q26poQ3dLVIQ26psQ3d63Q26clkidQ3d9166833812018654366QQ_trksidZp3907Q2em263QQcategoryZ33653QQitemZ200460102454

[Bounty Hunter]

There are a couple of things I dont like about the 8274; first of all, they are BIG, which means reduced air flow to the radiator, which is not that great when you live in a permanently hot area...  Also, line speed; it may sound good to have more line speed, but it also makes the winching operation a bit more dangerous (less time to react, more chance to get your hand stuck on the winch).  Of course, the winch is nearly undestructable, which is defenetly a plus.  Personally, I am happy with my Superwinch, but it has yet to stand the test of time the way the 8274 has.

It blocks a lot of my radiator, but never had an issue on the 2.5L, and we have some steamy humid summers.  You're right about the no-load line speed, you definitely have to be on your toes or you will get hurt at 75ft a minute.  Then there's the run-on after letting off the controller, due to the centrifugal force of the large heavy gears.

[oldjeep]

I've never had any cooling issues either and I've run an 8274 or Bellview on all of my jeeps.  The reason I run an upright winch is that they are less prone to overheating the winch motor.  Nothing worse than having to stop and let the winch cool down.  They are also simple and awfull hard to break.

[chrisfranklin]

Chris, this is a good deal. It won't last!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Warn-M8000-26502-NIB_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dSIQ26ituQ3dUCIQ252BUAQ252BFICSQ26otnQ3d8Q26poQ3dLVIQ26psQ3d63Q26clkidQ3d9166833812018654366QQ_trksidZp3907Q2em263QQcategoryZ33653QQitemZ200460102454

Thanks for pointing that one out, FourBangerYJ.   I've mostly seen those sell for $500-$600. You ever seen a new M8000 sell that low before? 

[Jeffy]

Thanks for pointing that one out, FourBangerYJ.   I've mostly seen those sell for $500-$600. You ever seen a new M8000 sell that low before? 

I don't know about Scott but I bought my M8000 new in '98-'99 for $429 shipped from CA to HI.  I had a friend of a friend who was a manager at 4WPW in Tustin set it up.  After Warn changed the HP ratings, all the winches seem to have jumped $100.  Mine is the basic M8000, 80ft cable and a hawse fairlead.  I like the hawse fairlead since it's no profile.  I can always get a longer cable or use an extension if I need to.

[FourbangerYJ]

Thanks for pointing that one out, FourBangerYJ.   I've mostly seen those sell for $500-$600. You ever seen a new M8000 sell that low before? 

That is way cheaper than I bought mine for. I got mine thru 4x4rockshop about 5 years ago. IIRC it was between 5-600 shipped. But it had the 80 ft cable not the 100.
It's a great winch for the money! I'd love to have the 8274 but for as much as I have used mine (mostly to bail out others) the M8000 is more than enough!

[TrailsLessTaken]

I paid i think 539 for my warn 8000 if i recall from 4WP