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Offline aka-justin

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Re: Stupid Jeep, part 23
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2010, 01:37:12 AM »
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Re: Stupid Jeep, part 23
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2010, 10:45:25 AM »
Using the space to keep chili/food warm is a good idea.  I could see doing that.
 
Definitely not enough space -- it'd need to hold 40"x24"x24" -- but I'd want to (theoretically) try to store a gas pocketbike in there just for laughs http://www.minipocketrockets.com/cagllari-pocket-rocket/.  

Airflow would probably be a problem, but a pocketbike in there would be a relatively cheap way to keep me smiling about all the newfound space when I put the hood up, post e-fan install.   :pirate:  
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Re: Stupid Jeep, part 23
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2010, 04:35:54 PM »
Fan, coolant bottle and power steering bottle are mounted. Have been taking my time today to make sure all the wiring is done as neatly and tucked away as possible.

Decided this afternoon to pick up an on/off switch for the cab. Still need to figure out how to tie in the ac 12v line so the fan is forced on when the ac is on. Not too worrid if that one actually gets wired anytime soon.

Will post some pics later...going for a quick swim.
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Re: Stupid Jeep, part 23
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2010, 05:29:26 PM »
Still need to figure out how to tie in the ac 12v line so the fan is forced on when the ac is on. Not too worrid if that one actually gets wired anytime soon.

use a second relay controlled by the ac clutch 12v line.
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Re: Stupid Jeep, part 23
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2010, 05:53:24 PM »
use a second relay controlled by the ac clutch 12v line.

don't need the relay as I have the DC Control unit...I just need to find the 12v line....haven't even looked it up yet.
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Re: Stupid Jeep, part 23
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2010, 08:06:52 PM »
don't need the relay as I have the DC Control unit...I just need to find the 12v line....haven't even looked it up yet.

gotcha, that's easy then
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Re: Stupid Jeep, part 23
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2010, 01:13:20 AM »
I purchased the Derale DER-16759 Deluxe Adjustable Fan Controllers with Radiator Probe for my fan from Summit Racing for $40 + shipping and tax.  Includes a probe to insert into the radiator (or you can get the water temp sensor), and adjustable temperature to trigger the on/off, and a over ride circuit that taps into your a/c compressor's electoric clutch.  As soon as the a/c clutch is engaged, it then would trigger the fan.

Well worth the money.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DER-16759/

The picture looks like an old model.  Mine has a all module plugs that can be removed, and the adjustment potentiometer is protected with a small rubber cover.  I'll be posting some pictures of it soon.  I just picked up a Ford Mark V/Taurus fan with shroud and I'm going to be re-wiring the rat's nest and hack job of my existing pontiac fan.  I'm hoping to do it by the next few days, we'll see if my best intentions pan out. ; )



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Re: Stupid Jeep, part 23
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2010, 04:56:31 PM »
Success...but a couple of bonehead moves...

1)  Always remember to put the 4 nuts back on the clutch fan plate before starting the engine.   :brick:  I thought it was just a tool that fell off the Jeep when I started up...then I was wondering why my voltage was sitting at 9...went to the engine bay and just see the belt sitting there turning nothing and the plate on the floor.  Then I had to loosen the whole belt up just to get it back on...oh well...it worked.

2)  Before you drill a hole in your dash, make sure there is room behind the hole for the toggle switch.   :brick:  Noty sure how much I'm off...I may be able to do a little trimming to make it sit flush.

Unit said the temperature was set at 180, but the fan didn't come on, so I lowered it.  AC wire worked dandy...fan comes right on when I turn the AC on.  And the toggle switch so I can turn off during a water crossing or for any other reason works great.

I just can't believe it...everything worked fine on the first try.

Will post up some pics of my install tonight in my build thread.   :thumbsup:
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Re: Stupid Jeep, part 23
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2010, 06:14:10 PM »
So you got the DC controller or that two-fan setup he sells?
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Re: Stupid Jeep, part 23
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2010, 07:27:12 PM »
So you got the DC controller or that two-fan setup he sells?

I got the DC Control 2-speed fan controller....only comes on at temperature, although I think I have it set too low as it is now on the whole time on my test drive.

Another weird thing...Jeep had one of those "blips" again in second gear.

CEL went out and it's like it fixed itself. No speedo issues... Everything is smooth.

Going to wire up the speedo correction module tomorrow and check for a short on that line.

Hey....fan just shut off...woo hoo!!!
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Re: Stupid Jeep, part 23
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2010, 08:43:14 PM »
I've gone to just a switch and relay.  I'd be curious to know if you get the shutter when you idle and the fan kicks in.  I think that's what killed my cat and loosened the bolts on my head pipe.

I email DCC several months ago and got nothing.
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Re: Stupid Jeep, part 23
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2010, 08:49:16 PM »
I've gone to just a switch and relay.  I'd be curious to know if you get the shutter when you idle and the fan kicks in.  I think that's what killed my cat and loosened the bolts on my head pipe.

I email DCC several months ago and got nothing.

None at all....can barely hear it come on much less feel it.
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Re: Stupid Jeep, part 23
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2010, 09:24:54 PM »
None at all....can barely hear it come on much less feel it.
So it steps the power or does it come on full?
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Re: Stupid Jeep, part 23
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2010, 09:28:28 PM »
So it steps the power or does it come on full?

I'm not sure...I don't have a reference point to tell what it would sound like...all I know is that there is no sudden drop in power or shutter.

I'll take a video tomorrow......
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Re: Stupid Jeep, part 23
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2010, 11:45:38 PM »
Mine is loud enough that I can hear it inside.  It sounds like the heater fan is on.  Also, it blows everything under the Jeep away.  The fan is strong enough to pull at hoodie strings if you get close to the grill.
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