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WranglerCOdy

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will i be banned?!
« on: June 03, 2010, 10:00:48 AM »
for putting in a  4 cyl. Cummings diesel in my Heep?! haha

haha this is my buddy's old jeep before he rolled it over and totaled it.

i would route the exhaust better

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Offline FourbangerYJ

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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2010, 10:15:11 AM »
 :ban:  ;)

Saw that one on JF when the YJ of the month was going. I came in 2nd to it.
I didn't like the stack coming out of the hood, but other than that it seemed pretty nice!
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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2010, 10:38:32 AM »
sweet, i do mind the clouds of black smoke though but it can be tuned more conservatively i suppose (he didn't go easy on fuel flow that's for sure).
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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2010, 11:30:32 AM »
That's a dumb place to put teh exhaust.  You can see if he had any of the windows open he's be inhaling it.  Top down must really suck.

As for the swap, I'd love to be able to do one but they aren't in any way legal even though they do get good gas mileage and you can clean them up with bio. or waste oil.
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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2010, 12:39:23 PM »
Quote from: Jeffy on June 03, 2010, 11:30:32 AM
That's a dumb place to put teh exhaust.  You can see if he had any of the windows open he's be inhaling it.  Top down must really suck.

As for the swap, I'd love to be able to do one but they aren't in any way legal even though they do get good gas mileage and you can clean them up with bio. or waste oil.

you have emissions laws?
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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2010, 01:51:46 PM »
Quote from: WranglerCOdy on June 03, 2010, 12:39:23 PM
you have emissions laws?


Pretty sure our state invented them  :pirate:
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WranglerCOdy

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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2010, 03:06:49 PM »
hahah thank god for FL.
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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2010, 03:29:02 PM »
thats sure my dream eng swap some day
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Offline Jeffy

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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2010, 03:43:08 PM »
Quote from: WranglerCOdy on June 03, 2010, 03:06:49 PM
hahah thank god for FL.
Actually, some federal laws have been broken with that install but unless the state actually checks or a State Police requests it, no one would know.
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Re: will i be banned?!
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2010, 03:44:19 PM »
Quote from: Jeffy on June 03, 2010, 11:30:32 AM
That's a dumb place to put teh exhaust.  You can see if he had any of the windows open he's be inhaling it.  Top down must really suck.

As for the swap, I'd love to be able to do one but they aren't in any way legal even though they do get good gas mileage and you can clean them up with bio. or waste oil.
would it just be illegal in california or basically any state that has emissions laws. and i wonder why it would be illegal, they are legal in the box trucks they originally came from...
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2010, 03:52:20 PM »
Quote from: stan98tj on June 03, 2010, 03:44:19 PM
would it just be illegal in california or basically any state that has emissions laws. and i wonder why it would be illegal, they are legal in the box trucks they originally came from...
Not all engines were DOT legal even if some were.  Most were for stationary equipment.  That means unless he's got a actual VIN then it's not DOT Legal.  Also, the weight class doesn't match.  You can't swap medium and heavy truck engines into a light truck or car.  This is why the H1 and I think H3 were classed as a Medium-Truck and was exempt for EPA Gas Mileage averages.  This is all Federal Law not state.
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Re: will i be banned?!
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2010, 03:55:09 PM »
Quote from: stan98tj on June 03, 2010, 03:44:19 PM
would it just be illegal in california or basically any state that has emissions laws. and i wonder why it would be illegal, they are legal in the box trucks they originally came from...

Depends on how the law is written. In Ca the replacement motor must be equal to or newer than the one being taken out. Among many others. Each state is different. Do your homework before you swap.
For the most part Ca. does not like the diesel motors. The Liberty 2.8 was not avail. here. That would be a nice motor too.
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Re: will i be banned?!
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2010, 04:02:36 PM »
Quote from: FourbangerYJ on June 03, 2010, 03:55:09 PM
Depends on how the law is written. In Ca the replacement motor must be equal to or newer than the one being taken out. Among many others. Each state is different. Do your homework before you swap.
For the most part Ca. does not like the diesel motors. The Liberty 2.8 was not avail. here. That would be a nice motor too.
America for the most part is a gasoline minded country. Travel overseas and you find that everyone else is all about diesel and for good reason too. its more efficient, doesnt need to be refined as much as gasoline and today's diesels are not the black smoke spewing diesels of yesterday. but i guess we out to support the oil companies and continue to support gasoline.
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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2010, 04:26:47 PM »
Quote from: stan98tj on June 03, 2010, 04:02:36 PM
America for the most part is a gasoline minded country. Travel overseas and you find that everyone else is all about diesel and for good reason too. its more efficient, doesnt need to be refined as much as gasoline and today's diesels are not the black smoke spewing diesels of yesterday. but i guess we out to support the oil companies and continue to support gasoline.

definitely the efficiency is a huge plus but you're supporting oil companies with diesel also, biodiesel is nowhere near to cover the demand so that's not there yet (and i'm not sure how environmentally friendly it is either - not saying that it is not just dunno what byproducts result from the manufacturing process).
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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2010, 06:19:21 PM »
Quote from: Jeffy on June 03, 2010, 03:43:08 PM
Actually, some federal laws have been broken with that install but unless the state actually checks or a State Police requests it, no one would know.
Here in PA diesels are exempt from emissions testing (last I heard).  Of course you might run into some issues because a diesel was not a factory option.
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