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Gearhead2.5

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94 2.5 - no start !
« on: January 28, 2006, 08:20:56 PM »
Diagnostic help would be appreciated , BUT ......... read the entire description of symptoms and diagnostic steps taken so far , first , before posting !

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Here's the deal ........

1994 YJ w/ 2.5 , it came home on the tow truck last night , has become hard to start recently , now it won't start at all .

I have a Factory service manual , a Haynes manual ( crap!) , an OTC enhanced 4000 scan tool w/ appropriate cartridges , an OTC digital multimeter , a good handle on electrical and vehicle diagnostics w/ several years experience.

Today I checked for spark @ #1 plug wire , had none , checked the coil , it's fine , I can enter a actuator diagnostics mode with my OTC scan tool and make a spark when a spark plug is connected to the lead on the coil , I can crank the engine with spark plug connected to the coil wire and make a spark that way too . I have back probed the coil connector , the cam position sensor ( dist.) and the crank position sensor , using my digital multimeter to test voltages and observe triggering events while cranking , as per the factory service manual . Additionally , using my scan tool , in the test actuator mode , I can hear the automatic shut down relay operate , the injectors , and can test the tach , the shift light as well as a few other relays . I have disconnected the PCM connector to visually check for bent pins or damage.

I should add , since I began driving this thing last August , it has , on occasion / intermittantly , at start up , exhibited rough running characteristics , sputtering , unable to take any throttle or build RPM . To correct the problem you simply shut the engine off , re-start and it runs fine ! . It would only behave this way once in a while.

Is this related to the no start ? described above ?

My scan tool is showing one trouble code only , ..... # 33 , this Jeep does not have air conditioning , so a code #33 can be ignored , you could erase it , but it would be back as soon as you started it again , ..... um ..... if it ran

Any ideas ?

A Further symptom , just brought forward by the co-driver , ...... the other day , on the way to work , she noticed the tachometer stayed at 1000 , then it started working properly.


I'm thinking the PCM ( powertrain control module ) is toast , probably a dealer item and not cheap , also , I'm not a parts changer type , ..... guessing what the problem might be , then throwing new parts at it till it runs , not fully understanding the problem or what fixed it , ........... so I'm not about to run out and buy a PCM , to see if that will fix it , borrow one ......... I could dig that !



HELP ! this thing is a DD it needs to be running , every day !!!!!!


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Offline Jeffy

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94 2.5 - no start !
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2006, 10:10:16 PM »
I think I'd still check the CPS.  When they go bad, they don't just fail but rather they'll work sporatically for a while.
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Gearhead2.5

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94 2.5 - no start !
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2006, 10:28:46 PM »
I wish it was that simple , I messed with it for a couple of hours today ,  rooted through some spare parts , finding a CPS , it had the wrong connector so I couldn't try it . I did  , as mentioned  using a couple of paper clips , back probe the connector and check for  voltage and the pulsed signal from the CPS.