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JJ984x4

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Re: TJ fuel pump has no power and guages quit?
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2010, 05:51:18 PM »
 :biggrin: so dont know what the actual prob is other than for some reason it no run. To make a long story longer I ended up doing away with the fuel pump relay.  I wired a power wire from an acc fuse to the fuel pump and ran wire (w an in line fuse) to make the necessary loop for the PCM so the PCM still thinks there is a relay in there and the pump has power only when the key is switched on. Again don't have a clue what is wrong w it but it now runs. Found do grounded wires, no pinched wires, No shorts, and no bad relays. So my conclusion is what ever was wrong w it is now rigged good enough for her to run.  The wife is very happy to have her jeep back and that in turn makes me very happy!!!!! :naughty:       So thanks for your help guys    As soon as I get a chance I will take some pics and see if I can figure out how to post them.  Thanks again. Ps if any one needs help w any wiring of a TJ I think that I have the wiring diagrams permanently burnt into my brain

JJ984x4

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Re: TJ fuel pump has no power and guages quit?
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2010, 12:17:04 PM »
I take it back... It's not fixed I drove it today about 20 miles and it popes the #11 fuse in the fuse box ( under dash). And piped every one I put in no matter weather the fuel pump relay bypass (see earlier post) was  pluged in or not. I'm chasing electrical grimlens   They are there and then they are gone and then they are back on a diff. Fuse  The #11 fuse is for "PDC coils" what is this and how is it related to the fuel pump relay.   I'm lost and need some help  and to make it even worse I loaned  my jp manual out   
More chasing down wires   Ill keep yall posted as to what I find 

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Re: TJ fuel pump has no power and guages quit?
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2010, 01:00:23 PM »
I take it back... It's not fixed I drove it today about 20 miles and it popes the #11 fuse in the fuse box ( under dash). And piped every one I put in no matter weather the fuel pump relay bypass (see earlier post) was  pluged in or not. I'm chasing electrical grimlens   They are there and then they are gone and then they are back on a diff. Fuse  The #11 fuse is for "PDC coils" what is this and how is it related to the fuel pump relay.   I'm lost and need some help  and to make it even worse I loaned  my jp manual out   
More chasing down wires   Ill keep yall posted as to what I find 


you're popping that fuse 'cause you skipped the relay. PDC coils I think means the Power Distribution Center coils (for the relays) and is not meant to carry the amps for the fuel pump. If you want to jump the pump then use a wire straight from battery but this is for testing and not permanent install (and if you really need to use it as an emergency fix to get home have it wired with am appropriate fuse and corresponding wire size) - you should fix the problem and not find a temporary workaround as a permanent fix (not trying to give you a lecture but you could start a fire like this).
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Re: TJ fuel pump has no power and guages quit?
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2010, 07:38:29 PM »
yep could start a fire i watched a guy do it yesterday on the trail when he tried to use a temp fix as perm. luckly they just gave out fire extingushers as a saftey bonus at work a couple weeks ago i wonder if they offer free refills since i now need one.

JJ984x4

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Re: TJ fuel pump has no power and guages quit?
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2010, 07:49:53 PM »
I would love to fix the actual prob. But for now it's just sittin in the drive way until I have some time and some help. You are correct   A temp fix will only make more problems down the road. I do have a good fire extinguisher! Haha. Hope I never have to use it

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« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2010, 07:12:23 PM »
same thing happened to me in my 97 just the other day. i was driving and it just shut off,  i could not hear the fuel pump when i turned on the key so i check the fuses under the hood and all was fine i checked behind the dash  all of the ones back there said nothing about fuel or anything so i figured it was a bad fuel pump. i got it back to the house with help from a good buddy and his trailer and we  replaced the pump, but it did not start.  i checked all of the fuses and the pdc coil fuse was blown soi replaced it and started the jeep it ran for a few minutes and blew. i did this again and it blew as soon as i put the new fuse in. i checked every connection and every wire around the jeep for signs of a crimp or a short nothing.  i did a little internet research i found that the asd {auto shut down},horn,fuelpump,ac all run off of this fuse.  it supplys power to the activation coil in those relays when the key is on.  the asd is the confusing part because it controls the coil ,the pre heater in the o2 sensor, the distributer, and computer so that when you turn of the key it shuts down all of those funtions to kill the jeep.  i unpluged every conecttion on the jeep all of them, including the computer.   i then plugged them back in making sure to get them all connected tight ,saving the computer for last, then i replaced the fuse again with a new one and started the jeep.  it has been running fine for a week. i am not sure what i did to correct the problem but it worked and i hope you have the same luck as i did.
  good luck let me know if you find anything else as this is still a mystery to me

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Re: TJ fuel pump has no power and guages quit?
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2010, 07:26:13 PM »
I'm in the process of working on a fuel pump issue with my 97'.  Sounds like I should look into a few things before I replace the pump.

JJ984x4

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Re: TJ fuel pump has no power and guages quit?
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2010, 10:07:51 PM »
Well I know what I'm tryin next. I'll spend some time dissconecting and conecting at all points and if
it's that easy I'm gonne have to kick my self for not trying this earlier. Thanks for the info about the PDC coils and the ASD relay I'll keep you posted thanks

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Re: TJ fuel pump has no power and guages quit?
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2010, 10:24:22 PM »
could be a bad relay coil - it could short out when getting hot, so if it happens again you could remove the relays and plug them back in 1 at a time until the fuse blows to identify which one's at fault.
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Re: TJ fuel pump has no power and guages quit?
« Reply #24 on: November 11, 2010, 06:46:08 PM »
jeep wont run without the asd and fuel pump relay in  but you can take out the horn and the ac to see if they are the culprit

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Re: TJ fuel pump has no power and guages quit?
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2010, 07:30:15 PM »
jeep wont run without the asd and fuel pump relay in  but you can take out the horn and the ac to see if they are the culprit

yeah, you're right - not sure what was i thinking...
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Re: TJ fuel pump has no power and guages quit?
« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2010, 07:19:31 PM »
any updates?

JJ984x4

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Re: TJ fuel pump has no power and guages quit?
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2010, 05:20:58 PM »
Sent it to an auto electrical specialist this morning, waiting to here back from them.  Hopefully they will figure it out in a timely manner. I will let yall know what and when they find something out

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Re: TJ fuel pump has no power and guages quit?
« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2010, 02:27:36 PM »
The ECU is fried.

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Re: TJ fuel pump has no power and guages quit?
« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2010, 03:40:54 PM »
Did they open it up?  Depending on what's actually 'fried' it might be fixable for cheap.
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