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Re: Is this a super 35 with arb or just dana 35 with arb
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2011, 11:57:58 AM »
Thats my plan stay off the skinny pedal keep rpms super low. I dont  like to gun it I am not only afraid of breaking axles shafts but drive shafts tranny  etc. More so now that I know I have stock shafts.

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Re: Is this a super 35 with arb or just dana 35 with arb
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2011, 12:11:24 PM »
As far as I understand, the breaking of axles comes when you dont have traction (and the wheels are spiining), and, suddenly, you get traction.  Knowing this, if you take it easy on the skinny pedal, you should be able to avoid breaking it.  In other words, dont just gun it.  Go slow and try to crawl over obstables instead of overpowering them.

i think you can brake it on pavement as well with big tires if you're turning tight circles, or something else like the driveshaft if the axles hold.
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Re: Is this a super 35 with arb or just dana 35 with arb
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2011, 12:21:19 PM »
As far as I understand, the breaking of axles comes when you dont have traction (and the wheels are spiining), and, suddenly, you get traction.  Knowing this, if you take it easy on the skinny pedal, you should be able to avoid breaking it.  In other words, dont just gun it.  Go slow and try to crawl over obstables instead of overpowering them.
This is where I've seen all of the D35's break.  It's that shock load they receive.
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Re: Is this a super 35 with arb or just dana 35 with arb
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2011, 08:55:38 PM »
So I guess that maybe if money permits I should look at 27 spline chromolly?  Make so of a lesser form of a super 35 sort of a super 35 with 27 splines instead of 30. The 27 spline chromoly say they are suposed to be 30% stronger than stock and put in with my arb should be a nice set up with spare shafts

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Re: Is this a super 35 with arb or just dana 35 with arb
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2011, 09:09:54 AM »
So I guess that maybe if money permits I should look at 27 spline chromolly?  Make so of a lesser form of a super 35 sort of a super 35 with 27 splines instead of 30. The 27 spline chromoly say they are suposed to be 30% stronger than stock and put in with my arb should be a nice set up with spare shafts

Maybe because you already have the ARB, but it is a better choice to go to D44 or F8.8...  Alkthough, having said that, I have yet to have a problem with my Super D35 and ARB.  Mine is 31 spline (IIRC; it's defenetly more than 27) though.
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Re: Is this a super 35 with arb or just dana 35 with arb
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2011, 12:21:48 PM »
It really depends on what trails you do.  If the are difficult then get some aftermarket shafts.  Then use your stock shafts as spares.  Otherwise buy a used set of stock shafts and use those as spares.
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Re: Is this a super 35 with arb or just dana 35 with arb
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2011, 12:54:42 PM »
Otherwise buy a used set of stock shafts and use those as spares.

I would go with that option; D35 shafts are typically cheap to find, as most people tend to take them out anyway.
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Re: Is this a super 35 with arb or just dana 35 with arb
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2011, 03:10:51 PM »
  Mine is 31 spline (IIRC; it's defenetly more than 27) though.

30, the C-clip groove doesn't count as a spline :lol:
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Re: Is this a super 35 with arb or just dana 35 with arb
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2011, 04:19:50 PM »
Buying  stock shafts for spares sounds good to me. I wheeled the heck out of it when I bought it, because I didnt know anything about dana 35s. I towed trailers weighing over 1000 pounds,drove it on some rocky roads for miles to the middle of nowhere,taken it through creeks, even ran the locker in deep snow but havent broke the shafts yet. I know they can break, so I stay off the skinny pedal. So a spare set of stock shafts should do me good. 

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Re: Is this a super 35 with arb or just dana 35 with arb
« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2011, 07:24:03 PM »
The more I look into it I think I will go with superior 27 spline c-clip eliminators. How well do you think that set up would work. The 4340, 27 spline c-clip elims on 33 mtr/kevlar

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Re: Is this a super 35 with arb or just dana 35 with arb
« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2011, 07:53:57 PM »
The more I look into it I think I will go with superior 27 spline c-clip eliminators. How well do you think that set up would work. The 4340, 27 spline c-clip elims on 33 mtr/kevlar

you would spend something like $500+ but still can't drive it if you break a shaft (they are not full floaters).
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Re: Is this a super 35 with arb or just dana 35 with arb
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2011, 09:12:11 PM »
Wow, $500 for spline eliminators?  Pre-91's don't have C-clips.  ARB back in the day invented the eliminators because of that very reason.  They then redesigned their locker and sold off the mfg of the kit.  Still for $500, is a lot of money on something that that's bring any additional strength over Superiors C-clip axle kits.
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Re: Is this a super 35 with arb or just dana 35 with arb
« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2011, 09:40:18 PM »
   Still for $500, is a lot of money on something that that's bring any additional strength over Superiors C-clip axle kits.
I dont understand what you are saying in that line?

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Re: Is this a super 35 with arb or just dana 35 with arb
« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2011, 09:52:10 PM »
Wow, $500 for spline eliminators?  Pre-91's don't have C-clips.  ARB back in the day invented the eliminators because of that very reason.  They then redesigned their locker and sold off the mfg of the kit.  Still for $500, is a lot of money on something that that's bring any additional strength over Superiors C-clip axle kits.

make that $600+ http://www.4wd.com/productdetails.aspx?partID=42680 but can probably be around 500 on sale.

I dont understand what you are saying in that line?

he meant $500 is a lot of money for something that doesn't bring any extra strength (compared to a set of c-clip chromolly axles)

not to mention that you still can't drive it when the axle breaks, probably move it around a bit but that's about it.
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Re: Is this a super 35 with arb or just dana 35 with arb
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2011, 10:07:15 PM »
make that $600+ http://www.4wd.com/productdetails.aspx?partID=42680 but can probably be around 500 on sale.

he meant $500 is a lot of money for something that doesn't bring any extra strength (compared to a set of c-clip chromolly axles)

not to mention that you still can't drive it when the axle breaks, probably move it around a bit but that's about it.
They c-clip elims are chromolly 4340 not like the stock 1050 or what ever it is. So it is c-clip elims with superior chromolly shafts