Topic: Bought some Borla Headers

[Torch_Ind]

Poor quality.  I know several people who have had them replaced because of rust.

after how many years of use?  I understand it's not stainless but you pay for what you get and this header was extremely cheep price !! bang for the buck it's well worth it especially on something you run a big risk of smashing it

[SDWE61988]

If you go with the Banks header, you do not need to replace the downpipe ( on the 4 banger anyway).  It will bolt right up to the existing downpipe.  I have had mine on for 1.5 years and 25k miles with no problems so far.  It was a definate seat of the pants improvment with the header, and the electric fan. I kept up with a couple guys with 4.0 jeeps going to western MD back in December over the mountains with no problems.  They were very impressed that my squirrels could keep up!

[dwtaylorpdx]

I thought the banks used the stock downpipe?

Re the ceramic coating, it is up to 500 degrees cooler with my heat gun than a bare pipe.
This is coming straight off track and checking them fast as I can to make sure the motor
is burning the methanol evenly. 360 sprint car running mechanical injection methanol and
turning about 8500 on track. Two seasons so far and no sign of the coating giving up.

Dave

[sharpxmen]

I thought the banks used the stock downpipe?

Re the ceramic coating, it is up to 500 degrees cooler with my heat gun than a bare pipe.
This is coming straight off track and checking them fast as I can to make sure the motor
is burning the methanol evenly. 360 sprint car running mechanical injection methanol and
turning about 8500 on track. Two seasons so far and no sign of the coating giving up.

Dave

would that prevent them from rusting (i mean from the inside)?

[chrisfranklin]

Guess I'll order a banks and then send it to get coated.  Maybe jet-hot? Interesting what dwtaylorpdx was talking about with the coatings.

[dwtaylorpdx]

Jet hot is good, there are a bunch of people that do it these days.

Ours were done by a local to Portland shop, they used a "silver-chrome" compound thats supposed to be the best at thermal blocking, its a cool looking silver grey color...

Dave

[Torch_Ind]

I thought the banks used the stock downpipe?

Re the ceramic coating, it is up to 500 degrees cooler with my heat gun than a bare pipe.
This is coming straight off track and checking them fast as I can to make sure the motor
is burning the methanol evenly. 360 sprint car running mechanical injection methanol and
turning about 8500 on track. Two seasons so far and no sign of the coating giving up.

Dave

 

I was thinking of modifying my header for turbo then having it blasted and coated

[dwtaylorpdx]

I have not personally seen it, but i heard that Jet hot (I think it was them)
will do them inside and outside. It supposedly brought the thermal barrier up to about 800 degrees.

The beauty part is the quick cool-down. Especially if your jumping on a car to get it out for a A-Main with money on the line... :)

Dave

[sharpxmen]

I have not personally seen it, but i heard that Jet hot (I think it was them)
will do them inside and outside. It supposedly brought the thermal barrier up to about 800 degrees.

The beauty part is the quick cool-down. Especially if your jumping on a car to get it out for a A-Main with money on the line... :)

Dave

if they can make it inside and out that would be great

does anyone know if pacesetter has it inside coated as well?

[Torch_Ind]

if they can make it inside and out that would be great

does anyone know if pacesetter has it inside coated as well?

probably not sharp

[sharpxmen]

probably not sharp

most likely and in that case they'll rust from inside just as fast (ok, maybe not as fast but still).

[chrisfranklin]

I checked my account and apparently the store, autocarparts.com processed my order for a set of 92-95 Borla Headers for a 2.5.   I had placed the order on 1/31 and hadn't heard back from them along the lines of headers-not-made, headers-not-in-stock.  Will see what happens, but I am skeptical.

Jet Hot got back in touch and quoted $220 for inside/outside ceramic coating.  Doing a Thermotec header blanket deal runs about $100, so might do the Jet Hot process. 

[stan98tj]

Do the banks headers come with a downpipe? The ones I've seen advertised show a photo that looks like this  http://www.quadratec.com/products/17601_502_07.htm. if no downpipe, does Banks even sell one? 

no new downpipe with the banks. you re-use the stock one

[Jeffy]

I checked my account and apparently the store, autocarparts.com processed my order for a set of 92-95 Borla Headers for a 2.5.   I had placed the order on 1/31 and hadn't heard back from them along the lines of headers-not-made, headers-not-in-stock.  Will see what happens, but I am skeptical.

Jet Hot got back in touch and quoted $220 for inside/outside ceramic coating.  Doing a Thermotec header blanket deal runs about $100, so might do the Jet Hot process. 

That's a lot of cash to pour into the engine.

[chrisfranklin]

Not real thrilled about the idea either.  But I know once they're on their I'll end up saying:  "darn it, I should have just waited and got the things coated."

It's going to be the heat, not any kind of rust issue thaat's the problem.