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01amberfirewv
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« on: May 29, 2006, 05:21:24 PM » |
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I think I am going to change the plugs and wires, should I stick with champion and mopar?
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Guardian7
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2006, 05:40:35 PM » |
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Champion's are crap, stick with Autolite, bosch etc..
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2006, 06:10:51 PM » |
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I've always used something other then Champion which are usually OEM. I've run Accel U-Groove, Bosch Platinums, etc... and now standard AutoLites. I've heard Champion truck plugs are pretty good. Has to do with the copper.
I haven't had much luck with Platinum's. I've read others don't have good results either. One plug I'd like to maybe try is a NGK Iridiums. THey are $$$ though.
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2006, 07:44:49 PM » |
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All the new trucks seem to be using Iridiums and they claim their good for 90K which may account for the big $$ they get. A few years ago while working as a mechanic for NASA Ames Dryden they provided Champion plugs for all our tune-ups and they would die really fast! Champion may have better performance grade plugs but I will never waste my money trying them.
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2006, 09:10:08 AM » |
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my jeep runs MUCH better with champion truck plugs than it did with any other brand I've ever tried. using accel plug wires also.... plug wires can get expensive but i notice no difference between the $39 accel's and the $80 msd's......
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2006, 02:12:28 PM » |
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my jeep runs MUCH better with champion truck plugs than it did with any other brand I've ever tried. using accel plug wires also.... plug wires can get expensive but i notice no difference between the $39 accel's and the $80 msd's...... I have had the very same experiance with Champion plugs, and have found that spending $$$$$ for plug wires is a waist of money also. (unless ya got to have pretty colors :roll: ) |
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2006, 02:26:41 PM » |
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I have had the very same experiance with Champion plugs, and have found that spending $$$$$ for plug wires is a waist of money also. (unless ya got to have pretty colors :roll: )
You won't notice any difference unless you start increasing the gap of the plugs. .035" is the stock gap. Using the stock gap with perfromance wires will net you nothing. I currently run my gap at .065" with no problems. |
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2006, 02:38:00 PM » |
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i don't like champions. At the dealership we pull the champions and run ngkr's. I run the standard autolite resistors. I do use the ngk iridiums in my suabru but that is a totally different animal. My jeep probably has under 200hp and the subie has 400hp and needs the high fire plugs but the jeep may be a waste for them.
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2006, 11:36:39 AM » |
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Wal*Mart didn't have the standerd or coper autolite plugs for Jeep but did have platnums. Are they any good?
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2006, 11:42:25 AM » |
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I don't think you'll see any benifit with platinums. Sometimes platinums can cause problems as well.
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2006, 01:07:17 PM » |
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On my Nissan, the only thing that runs good, no great, are the NGK Iridiums. A sports car, or sporty engine loves those things...
On the Jeep, I just put in the NGK V-groove. Now I haven't driven it since I put those in, so let's hope that there's a noticable improvement over the Champions that were in there for about 2-3 years...
I'm running a MSD ignition so I gapped them at .40, although I heard that I should have gapped them at .50. So we shall see...
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2006, 09:02:33 AM » |
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I got MOPAR wires and NGK vpower plugs. What is the required gap size and how many lbs should I trq the plugs to?
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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2006, 11:43:35 AM » |
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.035 gap
i usually just snug them and then give them about 1/4 turn at most
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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2006, 12:43:41 PM » |
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I got MOPAR wires and NGK vpower plugs. What is the required gap size and how many lbs should I trq the plugs to? Look at the Emissions sticker under the hood. It will tell you the propper gap. As for tightness, I do it by feel. (Seated + 1/8 turn) |
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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2006, 02:27:38 PM » |
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that's a pretty good combo, you should be fine.
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