Topic: Headlights

[Jeffy]

if you don't have daytime running lights it might work without the relays but can't tell for sure. 1 relay per beam can also work if you don't have DRL.

I'm going to pass on the high wattage lights for now.  My Jeeps too old to have DRL.

I'll probably order something this weekend.

[sharpxmen]

I'm going to pass on the high wattage lights for now.  My Jeeps too old to have DRL.

I'll probably order something this weekend.

you can run the 55/60w bulbs no problem though, i had a pair of sealed ones and had no issues (and i have the DRL module on it as well).

[Jeffy]

you can run the 55/60w bulbs no problem though, i had a pair of sealed ones and had no issues (and i have the DRL module on it as well).

55/60 is what the seal beams are/were.  It's what all headlights in the US are actually.  Although I think they have moved away from some of the requirements of the old seal beams.  No more tabs or aligning anymore.  I don't think they require lights to shine up as well as to the sides anymore either.  This is the main difference between Euro and DOT lights.

I'd like to run some better designed 55/60w eventually.  I know PIAA makes some that produce more light with the same amount of power.  My Cebie ION's were like that as well.  Only 55w but really bright.  Oh and yellow without losing 5w to the tint.

[Torch_Ind]

I'm going to pass on the high wattage lights for now.  My Jeeps too old to have DRL.

I'll probably order something this weekend.

what year is your jeep again ? mine is 95 it's got DRL

[sharpxmen]

what year is your jeep again ? mine is 95 it's got DRL

only Canadian YJs had DRL

[Torch_Ind]

only Canadian YJs had DRL

so age has nothing to do with it then. it's a us problem

[Jeffy]

so age has nothing to do with it then. it's a us problem

The harnesses starting having DRL in '94 or 95 in the US since all YJ's were built in Canada but they lacked the DRL module.  I don't think Jeep ever adopted DRL in the US as it is not a requirement.

Honestly though, I think DRL is a bad idea.  When it first showed up people noticed it.  Now, it's blended into the scenery and is no different then when it wasn't required.  The bad part is, motorcycles aren't noticed as much as well since they are required to have their headlight on.  Now they just blend in like the cars.

In any case, I order the Hella E-Code housings and the 60w/55w H2 HB2 bulbs.  Hopefully they will be here before Thanksgiving.

[sharpxmen]

The harnesses starting having DRL in '94 or 95 in the US since all YJ's were built in Canada but they lacked the DRL module.  I don't think Jeep ever adopted DRL in the US as it is not a requirement.

so if i unplug the DRL the headlights should still work? i can run the 90w bulbs then.

[Jeffy]

so if i unplug the DRL the headlights should still work? i can run the 90w bulbs then.

I would think so.  That's how everyone disables them in the US now.

[Jeffy]

Installed them.  Haven't tested them yet though.  The cut off is a lot nicer.  DOT regulation requires lights to project up and to the sides, unlike Euro-spec.  Funny thing is Xenon's and HID's don't project up either.  It's an outdated regulation for making sure people see unlit road signs.

It will be nice to have headlights though.  Driving around with one is really dangerous, especially in the rain, which happens to be fairly often.

[chrisfranklin]

Those E-Code Hellas look like they cut off nice. 

Was interested to see how well the Cibie housings work, so ordered a set of the Cibie E-Code housings + Osram bulbs + harness from DSLighting

[dwtaylorpdx]

I have the Euro Cibie's LOVE them had them for about 10 years.
I run the 100/55 Watt bulbs in them.

Dave

[Jeffy]

I went with the Hella's since they actually sell them in the US, unlike Cebie.  Hella has offices in the US and aren't third party imports.

[dwtaylorpdx]

Mine came from Baxters Auto Parts back then. They are big here in PDX.
I had hella's as well, I think the beam spread on the Cibies is maybe a bit better
than the hella's but its a near thing. I'd not hesitate to buy hella's if I couldn't get the Cibie units.

My hellas were the euro pattern as well, I much prefer it to the DOT pattern.

H4 anything beats sealed beam units! :)

Dave

[Jeffy]

Mine came from Baxters Auto Parts back then. They are big here in PDX.
I had hella's as well, I think the beam spread on the Cibies is maybe a bit better
than the hella's but its a near thing. I'd not hesitate to buy hella's if I couldn't get the Cibie units.

My hellas were the euro pattern as well, I much prefer it to the DOT pattern.

H4 anything beats sealed beam units! :)

Dave

I don't know why Cebie doesn't have a US distribution.  I have some 6" Cebie Ion's which are great lights.

It's just easier to get Hella's without having to find someone who know's someone.  I've heard of people using Hella's E-code lenses ever since they started appearing.  I just never bothered to change mine.  Now that I have, I have to say they have made a HUGE difference.  The stock headlights have a bit hotspot and everything outside of it isn't lit very well.  You can see in the last pick, the hotspot isn't that much different then everything else.  The cutoff is really nice.  I can see it illuminate signs at a distance as they flicker because the lights are moving with the Jeep.

The only bad thing, if there is one is high beam.  It's nice and bright BUT it had a small dark spot in the middle of where you look.  Also everything in Low beam is dark.  This is easily fixed by running the high beams with the low beans instead of using one or the other.  Although that requires modifications to the switches.