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Re: 4.5" or 5.5" Rubicon Express Coil Springs?
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2012, 06:18:14 PM »
Switch to leafs!  :lol:  :wall:
The Currie springs are nice for a off the shelf spring. Not sure on the other spring brands. How about BDS or Rockrawler?
BDS gets their leafs from McCoy Brothers.  BDS's founder was from Trail Master while also gets leafs from McCoy Brothers.  As do most other mfg's that don't make their own leafs.
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2012, 07:30:23 PM »
what about coilovers? something like Art used on his big yeller project (i think his are King shocks), would involve some fabrication but they are adjustable.
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Re: 4.5" or 5.5" Rubicon Express Coil Springs?
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2012, 07:38:39 PM »
BDS gets their leafs from McCoy Brothers.  BDS's founder was from Trail Master while also gets leafs from McCoy Brothers.  As do most other mfg's that don't make their own leafs.

I meant coils but looks like I didn't mention that.  :brick:
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2012, 08:09:23 PM »
I meant coils but looks like I didn't mention that.  :brick:
They do all springs there.  I shouldn't have said leafs. my bad.  Not many suspension companies have their own foundry.
what about coilovers? something like Art used on his big yeller project (i think his are King shocks), would involve some fabrication but they are adjustable.
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2012, 08:37:50 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2012, 08:57:07 PM »
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i thought they're like $500/piece (or maybe that's just for the shocks and then add the coils).
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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2012, 04:23:56 AM »
I paid 1800 for 4 14" travel, 2" diam coilovers with springs and remote reservoirs.
Was well worth the money. For King coilovers Trent fab is the place to order them
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« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2012, 10:16:00 AM »
I'd love to go to leaf springs as my 95 yj was awesome with its budget procomp 4" lift leafs, but that's not going to happen.

Custom coils or coil over shocks would be another great option, but it not happening anytime soon.

So, after that input, I’m back to standard off the shelf coils. 95% of the time this thing will be going from home to work/school and back. The other is random outings. I really just want a set a coils that will handle a hard weekend occasionally. The TeraFlex I have are not fitting the bill and I know 90% of that is from their age.

My conclusion from everyone's awesome input:
Add another inch of bump stop ext (3") to the rear
Stick with 4" coils
Stay away from Transamerica/McCoy Bro coils

My budget for next month is $500-600. I'm going front and rear coils, coil pads, and hopefully new rear shocks. I put the Bilstein 5100 back on even though one is leaking, but the YJ ones I got from sharpmanx where almost non-existent from the YJ valving. Adjustable pads seem good for settling, but I'll wait and see how bad I need them after this upgrade.

After next year, once I get into a house, I'll be looking at getting a "long arm" lift with a tummy tuck skid and fox or king shocks. I'm thinking I'll be dropping $4-6k.
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« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2012, 02:13:05 AM »
It has the NV241OR transfer case that has no slip yoke.

Correction, it's the NV241J. I checked the tag.
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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2012, 07:50:24 AM »
Correction, it's the NV241J. I checked the tag.

i think it's the same
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« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2012, 08:01:59 AM »
i think it's the same

Probably. I read that j stood for Jeep.
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« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2012, 10:54:58 AM »
Probably. I read that j stood for Jeep.


yeah, that's what it says on the core i got for the planetary gear (241 J) but everywhere i looked  is referenced as 241OR
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Re: 4.5" or 5.5" Rubicon Express Coil Springs?
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2012, 10:17:45 AM »
I'd love to go to leaf springs as my 95 yj was awesome with its budget procomp 4" lift leafs, but that's not going to happen.

Custom coils or coil over shocks would be another great option, but it not happening anytime soon.

So, after that input, I’m back to standard off the shelf coils. 95% of the time this thing will be going from home to work/school and back. The other is random outings. I really just want a set a coils that will handle a hard weekend occasionally. The TeraFlex I have are not fitting the bill and I know 90% of that is from their age.

My conclusion from everyone's awesome input:
Add another inch of bump stop ext (3") to the rear
Stick with 4" coils
Stay away from Transamerica/McCoy Bro coils

My budget for next month is $500-600. I'm going front and rear coils, coil pads, and hopefully new rear shocks. I put the Bilstein 5100 back on even though one is leaking, but the YJ ones I got from sharpmanx where almost non-existent from the YJ valving. Adjustable pads seem good for settling, but I'll wait and see how bad I need them after this upgrade.

After next year, once I get into a house, I'll be looking at getting a "long arm" lift with a tummy tuck skid and fox or king shocks. I'm thinking I'll be dropping $4-6k.

BDS might be good regardless of the source since IIRC they have a lifetime replacement warranty.  Pretty sure it applies to broken springs, not sure about just sagging.

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Re: 4.5" or 5.5" Rubicon Express Coil Springs?
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2012, 12:30:11 PM »
BDS might be good regardless of the source since IIRC they have a lifetime replacement warranty.  Pretty sure it applies to broken springs, not sure about just sagging.


Actually most companies have lifetime warranties on their springs.  Getting them to relace sagging springs really depends on how much sag they have.  You also usually have to be the original owner with proof of purchase though.
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Re: 4.5" or 5.5" Rubicon Express Coil Springs?
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2012, 10:42:31 PM »
Ordered the 4" Currie coil springs Front and Rear and rear emulsion fox shox (to semi-match the front fox shox reservoirs) from eadoffroad.com. I also order 2 sets of coil pads. The new rear coils are HD, so know I'm debating extending the rear bump stops past the existing 2" extension until I feel how it rides and articulates. So far, I'm $664.79 deep. I know the bump stop extensions are $30 for 1.5" extensions, but I'm stupid and can't help being cheap. I'm already $64.79 over what I wanted to spend max.

http://www.eadoffroad.com/jeep/wrangler-tj/tj-suspension/tj-suspension-springs/currie-enterprises-ce-9130h-jeep-tj-lj-4-inch-lifted-coil-springs-4pc
http://www.eadoffroad.com/jeep/wrangler-tj/tj-suspension/tj-shocks/fox-980-02-271-a-jeep-tj-xj-zj-2.0-factory-series-rear-shock
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