Author Topic: Diesel Jeeps vs. Gas Jeeps: From Underwater to in-the-Dirt - Dirt Every Day  (Read 1068 times)

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It looks like they all work great.
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It looks like they all work great.
While they they all 'work' the diesel has a distinct advantage.  They idled up stuff, the others had to rev up to get over.  Also mileage was a pretty big difference.  OOn the while you're probably looking at an inscrease of 100-150 miles.

I think if they can make it cost as much as a 5.3 swap, a lot of people will consider it.  A 5.3L swap is around $18K out the door.  For those who are only 49-State Legal, it might not mean much but for those of us in California, it means a lot.
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It's an interesting option. Wonder how they get away with not having a dpf or SCR. Wonder if there is a year limit for what they can legally be swapped into...
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It's an interesting option. Wonder how they get away with not having a dpf or SCR. Wonder if there is a year limit for what they can legally be swapped into...
They mention the engine is a pre-production while the original was a prototype.  Neither are production/50-State.
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Likely a better solution than the VW option.
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Likely a better solution than the VW option.
With DieselGate, I wonder if that put a hole in the VW swap market.
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With DieselGate, I wonder if that put a hole in the VW swap market.

Prob not, the market is pretty small and most of the folks likely are from non emissions states. I didn't follow the issue closely, but I think the VW engines are still 50 state legal.
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Prob not, the market is pretty small and most of the folks likely are from non emissions states. I didn't follow the issue closely, but I think the VW engines are still 50 state legal.
You have two choices as an owner of a VW diesel and some Audi's I think too.  Let VW buy the car back or have it modified which means reduced mileage/performance.  This is on a Federal level.  VW is then supposed to have these cars crushed which means no salvage.

Once Cummins gets into the crate engine market, I don't think anyone's going to look at the VW unless it's a Suzuki or Toyota swap with a 1.6 or earlier gen 1.9L.  I htink for the Jeep market, it's dead though.
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You have two choices as an owner of a VW diesel and some Audi's I think too.  Let VW buy the car back or have it modified which means reduced mileage/performance.  This is on a Federal level.  VW is then supposed to have these cars crushed which means no salvage.

Once Cummins gets into the crate engine market, I don't think anyone's going to look at the VW unless it's a Suzuki or Toyota swap with a 1.6 or earlier gen 1.9L.  I htink for the Jeep market, it's dead though.

Good point
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