Topic: REMOTE START ON A STICK!!!!! SOUNDS FUN EHH????

[zeitlerusmc]

So i know it CAN be done but most shops won't do it without a little cash on the side and a signed  discliamer. but my o5 tj won't start unless you depress the clutch so i would have to  bypass that, and maybe move it to the e brake that way it won't start unless the e brake is applied? what do  you jeepers think?

[SDentone]

So i know it CAN be done but most shops won't do it without a little cash on the side and a signed  discliamer. but my o5 tj won't start unless you depress the clutch so i would have to  bypass that, and maybe move it to the e brake that way it won't start unless the e brake is applied? what do  you jeepers think?

Is a remote starter down there in Pendleton worth the trouble?  If so, why not move the safe to the E Brake.  You put the E-brake on every time you get out of it anyway right?

[kenny kustom]

I have been doing mobile electronics for more than 10 years now. I have done many r/s on manual. The clutch is not a problem. I would only use a r/s designed for manual. There is a procedure you have to go throught to put it into " ready mode " every time you leave the jeep.

Whenever i did a manual , i would go over the car very carefully to make sure the ebrake, doorpin worked well. And i would never put on in a jeep or convertible. Too easy for someone to pop it back into gear.

Do what i did this fall. I put in a 1500 watt circulation coolant heater. plugged in for 2 hours and its blowin hot.

[zeitlerusmc]

Thats what I said Sd move the clutch over ride to  the e brake, And I'm from AZ so this is cold to  me, and it gets cold out here in the mornings especially the winter, and they are calling for a very wet winter out here, but most of all I just think its bada$$

[kenny kustom]

R/S in a jeep is a very bad idea. Not to mention americans will sue, if you look at them funny. I wouldnt do it.

[Jeffy]

Well, I believe it's still there.  If you look under the dash you should be able to find the plug for the clutch interupt.  There should be a dummy plug someplace that allows you to plug it into.

The is a concern while on the trail since you won't be able to start the engine unless the clutch is in.  This is a problem when you're on a hill and depressing the clutch could have you rolling backwards too far and then you have to worry about jumping on the throttle afterwards.

I don't think any shop would put an remote starter in an automatic.  Way too much liability.  Not to mention if the ignition requires a chip, that's an extra key hidden up in the dash for someone to look for.

But since you're in Socal, I can't really feel for ya.  It never gets that cold like it does up north.  The 2.4L should heat up fairly fast even in winter.  I've never had a problem with starts or getting it warmed up.  I mean, what are your fellow Marines going to say when they hear about you complaining about a little rain and some chill in the air?  

[zeitlerusmc]

I'm going to leave that one alone funny guy!!!!! :roll:

[kenny kustom]

You have no idea what you are talking about. Yes there is a clutch switch, no we dont put a key under the dash. And yes there are overt a million r/s put in every year.

[Jeffy]

I'm going to leave that one alone funny guy!!!!! :roll:

Hahah, just poking a little fun at ya.

[Jeffy]

You have no idea what you are talking about. Yes there is a clutch switch, no we dont put a key under the dash. And yes there are overt a million r/s put in every year.

Yes, I'm going by second hand info. :nothing:  So how do you bypass the chip for the ignition. (I'd honestly like to know.) When my friend had one installed into his Dodge, they required one of this keys to mount into a black box which was placed under the dash.  Although, I'm not sure if TJ's have the chips in the keys.

Now that I think about it, I think the recommendation I remember seeing for a R/S was for a manual not an auto.

[rcopes]

On older models you could disable the clutch pedal switch by putting a fuse in the fuse box where the fuse for the automatic transmission would be. You might check and see if that is still true!!!

[Jeffy]

On older models you could disable the clutch pedal switch by putting a fuse in the fuse box where the fuse for the automatic transmission would be. You might check and see if that is still true!!!

I believe that works from 97-99.  Then they got the idea to be able to disconnect the switch.  For some reason I'm thinking it's over the tranny hump area.  I really don't like the interupt switches.  For those who drove before '97, its really annoying since they never had them.  But then too many people started with cars in gear and drove through their garages.  :shock:

It took me a minute or so to figure out I needed to press the brake before shifting out of Park once.       Kinda like the first time you hop into a Saab and try to start it...

[kenny kustom]

There is a bypass module that has the same security chip in it. The car learns the chip. When the r/s is engaged the module is activated and the security signal is sent to the bcm. I doubt the fuse thing would work as it is a switch at the pedal.

ha ha ,... i also drive a saab, people dont know where the key is, i still sometimes reach for the column.

[Jeffy]

There is a bypass module that has the same security chip in it. The car learns the chip. When the r/s is engaged the module is activated and the security signal is sent to the bcm. I doubt the fuse thing would work as it is a switch at the pedal.

ha ha ,... i also drive a saab, people dont know where the key is, i still sometimes reach for the column.

Hmm that's interesting.  They didn't have that when my friend was getting his R/S installed.  That would also help solve some problems with late model swaps like the ODBII 4.3L since those use the chip in the ignition.  Ratherbejeepn ended up getting a earlier ODBII PCM to get around it.

I used to move the cars around the shop since I was the only person who knew how to drive stick.  I jumped in and sat there like an idiot looking around.  Pat the column, then look at everything on the dash...  Do the obligatory, "WTF".  Then find it and do the "Who the F puts it there"....  I'm sure they designed them specifically that way so people who don't own one looks stupid when in them.  

[YJmechanic]

You have no idea what you are talking about. Yes there is a clutch switch, no we dont put a key under the dash. And yes there are overt a million r/s put in every year.

lighten up man.  this is an info forum people want to learn not be bashed by others when they don't know.  jeffy has more info on most things than all of us combined.

dodges have to have a key code programmed in to unlock the "sentury" key function temporarily disabled to use the r/s.  i can see if a shop installed the unit  may not have access to the dc coding and used a spare key to keep the sentury module happy that is actually very smart thinking.  


and by the way, i don't know how you do it but,  if you are using a control box that is just cheating the skreem setting in the dodges then you are just hurting your customers because in the long run you are going to cause dtc and prematurely wear out the the skreem module and that is expensive