Topic: Turbochargers

[jfrabat]

You know, considering (1) the mud we go through, and (2) that I dont know WHERE I would install an intercooler, water injection is not a bad idea.  And also, since regular gas here is 91 octanes instead of the 87 you get in the US, I can probably get away with using only water.  Now, the question is, do I need bottled water, or any old tap water will do?

[Jeffy]

You know, considering (1) the mud we go through, and (2) that I dont know WHERE I would install an intercooler, water injection is not a bad idea.  And also, since regular gas here is 91 octanes instead of the 87 you get in the US, I can probably get away with using only water.  Now, the question is, do I need bottled water, or any old tap water will do?

Tap water has minerals in it.  Overtime it will clog your injectors if you're not careful.  You want distilled or deionized water not tap or any bottled water.  Distilled water is easier to find then deionized.  Around here a gallon will cost around $1.  This is the same stuff you're supposed to be using in your radiator unless you're lazy and are using tap.

[jfrabat]

Tap water has minerals in it.  Overtime it will clog your injectors if you're not careful.  You want distilled or deionized water not tap or any bottled water.  Distilled water is easier to find then deionized.  Around here a gallon will cost around $1.  This is the same stuff you're supposed to be using in your radiator unless you're lazy and are using tap.

My radiator uses ONLY distilled water...  Plus whatever other impurities there are in the local tap water at the moment I refill it!   

[st.chevrolet]

You know, considering (1) the mud we go through, and (2) that I dont know WHERE I would install an intercooler, water injection is not a bad idea.  And also, since regular gas here is 91 octanes instead of the 87 you get in the US, I can probably get away with using only water.  Now, the question is, do I need bottled water, or any old tap water will do?

Jeffy is right about the distilled water, the link I emailed you covers that. Even with the 91 octane I would still run the water/meth. mix, way more cooling of the charge air.

[dwtaylorpdx]

De-ionized water should not be used in cars, it will erode the metals in the system.

There is a real long explanation but if you use DI water it wants to become
ionized and it gets that material anywhere it can...

I worked in the semi conductor industry for many years and we used both extensively...
There was a special section in our hazmat manuals about DI water...

Dave

[road2damascus]

Here's some pictures of a 2.5L turbo install on 505performace

http://505performance.com/NEW____2.html

[Vodkaman]

Looks like 1st April joke. 

[SDWE61988]

Has anyone on bought or seen one of these kits in person?  It has always intrigued me.  I know some of the guys here have built there own much cheaper, but the idea of a turn key system has it own attractions.

[st.chevrolet]

It looks like a pretty decent install considering they kept the vehicle pretty much stock ( stock mech. fan & shroud, A/C) with the exception of the obvious mods to the inner fender and the A/C plumbing.

[SDWE61988]

It does look clean.  It is pricey, but it looks like they have matched up the right parts to avoid some of the tuning and drivablity issues that  I have read about in this thread.  I know they need to recoup the engineering cost back, but I would think they might move more of these kits if the price was a bit lower.  If it is truly a turn key installation with minumum tuning, it might be worth doing in the long run.  I know there are super charger and tubo kits for my charger that are almost twice the price or more, however, those kit appear to be producing much larger gains (claimed anyway).

I have always liked the idea of Turbocharging the 2.5 vs a v8 swap, because of the lower weight of the upgrade, and it appears anyway to be less overall modification.  The fact that forced induction can reduce the effects of higher elevation, is another plus. 

[Jeffy]

It does look clean.  It is pricey, but it looks like they have matched up the right parts to avoid some of the tuning and drivablity issues that  I have read about in this thread.  I know they need to recoup the engineering cost back, but I would think they might move more of these kits if the price was a bit lower.  If it is truly a turn key installation with minumum tuning, it might be worth doing in the long run.  I know there are super charger and tubo kits for my charger that are almost twice the price or more, however, those kit appear to be producing much larger gains (claimed anyway).

I have always liked the idea of Turbocharging the 2.5 vs a v8 swap, because of the lower weight of the upgrade, and it appears anyway to be less overall modification.  The fact that forced induction can reduce the effects of higher elevation, is another plus. 

The only way they could price it lower is to have you piece-meal it, I think.  Sell all the custom hard parts then have the buyer get the commercially available stuff separate.  But then you'll have to buy everything anyway.

I forget if Pete (the owner of the Jeep) still owns it.

[SDWE61988]

Do you know how many people have have purchased one of these kits, or do you know someone who has?

[sharpxmen]

Do you know how many people have have purchased one of these kits, or do you know someone who has?

there was one in Garage Sale

[Jeffy]

Do you know how many people have have purchased one of these kits, or do you know someone who has?

I know the person whos Jeep that is in those pics.  He also happens to be a Staff Writer for JP Magazine.

[alexr40]

My turbo Setup.  1998 Jeep Wrangler SE (4 banger) 3 speed auto.

SETUP

Turbo: T04E/T3 (.50 cold/.63 hot)
PSI:  9psi
Intercooler: Yes
Esternal Wastegate
Haltech Parallel Setup Fuel/Timing Managemnet (Dyno Tuned)
Gains: 85hwp