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Clem

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Re: Bent Draglink
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2008, 08:58:39 AM »
Here is a simple idea that might help you avoid the bent drag link idea. I am not a fan of the bent drag link idea. If you want, I'll explain.

If you are going to make a drag link anyways, why not make a tie rod as well? Make your tie rod with the attachment point inboard just an inch or two so that you can properly clear the spring pack. You don't want to get too radical as you are changing the fulcrum on the steering, but an inch or so inboard could be doable. Another thing that you can do is to sleeve your drag link and tie rod. JP had an article a few years back about sleeving drag links and tie rods. Very simple, but makes it a lot stronger...

Nice! A new radiator...


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Re: Bent Draglink
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2008, 12:27:17 PM »

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You'll need to have them offset or else you'll have the perch on the housing rather then on the axle tube.  With the offset the leg will rest right against the housing where the tube enters.
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Re: Bent Draglink
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2008, 12:42:06 PM »
Offset how? Forgive my lack of understanding here as some of this is new to me. Are they taller or something? How do they make for more clearance with the draglink? Looking at yours I can't believe it doesn't hit on a tight right turn.



BTW that picture is deceiving.   If you look at it carefully, you can see that the camera was lower the then tie-rods.  This is so the rear suspension would be in the shot.  So it may look like the drag-link is against the leafs but they are far from it.

These were taken just a few minutes ago.  They tell the true story.


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Re: Bent Draglink
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2008, 04:12:07 PM »
How about an articulated shot to the passenger's side?

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Re: Bent Draglink
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2008, 04:34:24 PM »
How about an articulated shot to the passenger's side?

I'll have to dig one up but remember as one side goes up the angle is reduced and the pitman arm is now lower then it was originally with the tie-rod.

OK, here's a picture.  It's hard to tell because of the angle but it's still not touching.   :twofingers:  You'll also note the tire is turned to the right a bit.   :ass:

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Re: Bent Draglink
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2008, 08:50:24 PM »
Hmmm...   Interesting.  :beers:

Jesse-James

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Re: Bent Draglink
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2008, 10:03:15 PM »
Well, from what I can figure it would be when the pass side droops that it would hit. We are going to try it the way yours is set up and check clearances then go from there.

As far as the perches, My buddy is making them at the shop. They will have a larger radius on the inside to deal with the lip of the housing. Shouldn't be a problem that way as far as I can tell.

Can't wait. Starting on it this Friday.

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Re: Bent Draglink
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2008, 11:38:05 PM »
Well, it hits. Jeffy I just don't understand the difference but on mine it doesn't clear. Not even close, in this pic it's about a half inch on the steering stop before full turn. Tomorrow a new draglink will be in the works.



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Re: Bent Draglink
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2008, 12:20:42 AM »
Well, it hits. Jeffy I just don't understand the difference but on mine it doesn't clear. Not even close, in this pic it's about a half inch on the steering stop before full turn. Tomorrow a new draglink will be in the works.




Well, here's what I can tell from the picts.  There looks to be very little or no weight on the axles.  (There is also a lot of arch in those leafs, which should be relatively flat if not inverted a bit.)  The axle looks to be still horizontal which means both sides are hanging with very little weight on them.  In the real world this can only happen if have the front airborne or your hung up on the transfer case/frame and the front axle is hanging.  Normally, you will only have one side up and one side down.  Although you might have both sides compressed but it's unlikely to have both sides extended like that.

What you might want to do is put the tires on and use the rack to articulate the suspension and then see if it still hits.

In any case, if you really think you need the bent drag-link then go ahead and bend it.
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Re: Bent Draglink
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2008, 06:00:08 PM »
I retract my previous statement, it clears. Finished a few things and flexed the crap out of it and it clears by about 1/4" with the wheel turned. Couldn't believe it.



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Re: Bent Draglink
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2008, 11:52:50 AM »
Anyone have experience with the JB4X4 bracket? I looked at the BTF one but it says it's for a heim joint and I'm not too fond of the idea of having a heim joint in the steering linkage on something that will see the street. Shows the JB4x4 bracket uses the stock draglink and just needs it lengthened 2". For 160.00 shipped, that brings high steer into my price range.