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Offline dwtaylorpdx

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Re: Best front axle
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2010, 09:26:30 PM »
Its big enough you can't run a 5x4.5 bolt pattern.

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Re: Best front axle
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2010, 09:38:20 PM »
The only hubs that can clear a 4.5" bolt pattern are Explorer hubs and those are pretty close to the threads.
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Re: Best front axle
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2010, 09:45:53 AM »
do you know the hub diameter on the wagoneer axle?
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Re: Best front axle
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2010, 08:14:28 PM »
 A full width hp44 is only about 2" wider each side then an explorer rear with spacers to match the pattern....

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Re: Best front axle
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2010, 10:41:58 AM »
has anyone re-drilled the waggy hubs? is that an option? and if not what is the downside - i'm talking about doing it on a mill/drill with a rotary table and divider not by hand (just for my future reference).
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Offline neale_rs

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Re: Best front axle
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2010, 12:28:35 PM »
A full width hp44 is only about 2" wider each side then an explorer rear with spacers to match the pattern....

This is interesting.   A local jeep builder once told me it works out well to have a wider axle in front because when turning it is more likely for the inside rear tire to travel over the same spot the front one went over.
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Re: Best front axle
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2010, 02:15:52 PM »
This is interesting.   A local jeep builder once told me it works out well to have a wider axle in front because when turning it is more likely for the inside rear tire to travel over the same spot the front one went over.

True, the front axle needs to be wider than the rear. As far as I know all the Jeep front ends are wider than the rear. Some of the old CJ5's had a real narrow rear end with a wide front end. Prolly about 6  inches differance between them.
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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2010, 02:33:34 PM »
My front axle is the best front axle....end of story... :twofingers:
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Offline chardrc

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Re: Best front axle
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2010, 03:32:14 PM »
My front axle is the best front axle....end of story... :twofingers:
haven't you had locker problems and brake caliper problems  :stick: :wall:
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« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2010, 07:04:48 PM »
haven't you had locker problems and brake caliper problems  :stick: :wall:

nope.... :whistle:
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« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2010, 07:17:53 PM »
Mozz to prove it the best, you will actually have to wheel it first, breaking an axle shaft while mall crawling doesn't count lol
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Re: Best front axle
« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2010, 11:45:49 AM »
haven't you had locker problems and brake caliper problems  :stick: :wall:
Technically no, since that was his rear Dana 60. IIRC.
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Re: Best front axle
« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2010, 11:53:01 AM »
Dana 60 is overkill for a 4 banger on 35" tires or smaller.
Moz wants to put a V8 in his and looking at it from that perspective his choice makes a lot of sense. Not picking on you bro, you had a pretty darn nice Jeep built for yourself
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« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2010, 07:58:25 PM »
..and to clarify...

no locker problem, just ripped an air line..easy fix and no problems since with the braided steel line.

The brakes have sucked from the start, but that's what I get for using Caddy calipers which are more suited to a D44...going to 1-ton truck brakes next month.  No more constant adjusting and squishy pedal for me.  :clap:
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Re: Best front axle
« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2010, 05:26:05 AM »
If you want wider in the rear, there are a few companies out there with 2" spacers. Hp44 is 67", 8.8 is 59.5" + 4" (2" spacers) so 63.5"....