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« on: January 22, 2011, 06:27:28 PM »
Well, no rain.  Still chance for a cold front to come in before March though.  Won't know if my Jeep still leaks or not.  I'm gonna guess not though as I'm 99% sure I got it sealed.

Been thinking tires and wheels again, which isn't good.  33x10.5R15's on stock 15x7 steel wheels.  I'd imagine the Jeep looks very skinny.  I missed a chance to pick up 5 15x7's of the same wheels pictured for $100.  Gonna have to keep an eye out for them though.  They pop up on ebay for around $30-50 but $20 for shipping.

Here's what I'm starting to see:

  • Moab 15x8 - 5" BS
  • 5-Spoke 15x7 - 5.25" BS
  • KJ Steel 16x7 - 5.5" BS (some say 5.5" while others say 6")


Oh and I'm thinking about adding A/C to the Jeep.  I've got to change my OBA a bit but I should be able to retain it which is important.  Depending on how it looks with the 33's I might be able to remove the 1.25" body lift as well.  Problem with 16's is that the wheels are a bit more expensive as well as the tires.  255/85R16's are 33.4x10R16's.  .2-3" difference between the 33x10.5R15's and the 255's.

Unfortunately, I can't have a 'toy' which is why I'm thinking about going a different direction.



Interesting how the look of the Jeep changes so much with new wheels and some spacers.  Supposedly 15x8 5-Holes/Gamblers with 1.25" spacers.  Same Jeep with the same tires.

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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2011, 10:12:48 AM »
33-10.50 KM2's would be my choice I think. Would the BS on the TJ wheels make the front tires rub the leafs at full lock?
You are right about a wheel making a big difference in how a ride looks. There is a mid 70's Ford LTD station waggon for sale near here. It has a set of 5 spoke Crager looking wheels and it makes it look real cool. With a set of stock wheels it would be lame.
Do you think any of the yards would have a set of wheels?
Keep looking on the boards. It took me over a year to find my wheels. They came with a set of swampers. I sold the swampers and the wheels only cost me $50 for the set of 5. I'll keep an eye out.
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2011, 12:56:41 PM »
33-10.50 KM2's would be my choice I think. Would the BS on the TJ wheels make the front tires rub the leafs at full lock?
You are right about a wheel making a big difference in how a ride looks. There is a mid 70's Ford LTD station waggon for sale near here. It has a set of 5 spoke Crager looking wheels and it makes it look real cool. With a set of stock wheels it would be lame.
Do you think any of the yards would have a set of wheels?
Keep looking on the boards. It took me over a year to find my wheels. They came with a set of swampers. I sold the swampers and the wheels only cost me $50 for the set of 5. I'll keep an eye out.
The turn stops might need to be adjusted but since the tires are 2" narrower you have that to play with.  There aren't that many vehicles with usable steel wheels.  The Crown Vic P71's, Mustang, Ranger, Explorer, Chrysler 300, etc...  The problem with many are that they have a lot of negative offset.  Also most are only 7" wide as well.  Although that's not a problem for skinny's.  I saw a set of 5-spoke YJ/TJ wheels on CL for $150 for a set of 5.  I should have jumped on it.  I set the Moab 16" wheels for $250 go as well.  I might get lucky and fond some KJ steel wheels though.  I would think they might be the easier to find since there have been a lot of KJ's on the roads but I haven't seen many wheels offered.  I've also seen some older 6-spoke wheels from YJ's offered as well as the 9-Slot 15x6's.  I already have a set of 15x6's and although they can accept the 33x10.5's I'd like to go wider so teh sidewalls aren't pinched as much.

I think sticking with 15's would be the easiest.  Also gives me .5" more width then thee 255.

I'm trying to find wheels for less then $30 each.  I can get Black Rock Wheels for $56-64 each (15" 4.5" - 4.75" BS 16"4"-4.5".  Those are some of the cheapest that are still made in the US.  Crager was bought out my Unique so they aren't the same company anymore.  ARE 767's are nice but not for $75.

Oh, I've also noticed it's harder to find YJ's on skinny tires.  I guess it's because not too many people with YJ's want skinny tires.  Seems to be very common on XJ's and fairly common on TJ's.

And they patter is used on Dodge Chargers, Magnums and Caravans's as well.  Would be nice to get a list of vehicles and BS/Offsets going.  Minor problems that could come up is the center bore ID which could be drum sanded.

Found some Chrysler 300 but it's all 17-20".  I'm not 100% sure if the spare is 16" or 17".

44    2005    Chrysler    300C RWD    5x4.53in - 5x115mm    Medium    OE 17 & 18in    71.50    14mmx1.5    19-24in    15-25mm
45    2006    Chrysler    300C RWD    5x4.53in - 5x115mm    Medium    OE 17-20in    71.50    14mmx1.5    21-24in    15-25mm
46    2007    Chrysler    300C RWD    5x4.53in - 5x115mm    Medium    OE 17-20in    71.50    14mmx1.5    21-24in    15-25mm
47    2008    Chrysler    300C RWD    5x4.53in - 5x115mm    Medium    OE 17-20in    71.50    14mmx1.5    21-24in    15-25mm
48    2008    Dodge    Challenger    5x4.53in - 5x115mm    Medium    OE 20in    71.50    14mmx1.5    21-24in    15-25mm
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2011, 01:01:25 PM »
My 2001 KJ has 16's.
I would think a trip to your local yard should produce something. I don't know what they get for wheels. But the 15's are getting harder to find!
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2011, 01:12:15 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2011, 01:23:19 PM »
S.No    Year    Make    Model    Bolt Pattern    Vehicle Offset    OE Wheel Size    Center Bore    STUD Size    Size Up    Wheels Offset
1    1998    Jeep    Grand Cherokee    5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm    Medium    OE 15 & 16in    71.50    1/2in-RH    17-22in    15-25mm
2    1987    Nissan    300ZX    5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm    Medium    OE 15 & 16in    66.10    12mmx1.25    17-18in    15-25mm
3    1988    Nissan    300ZX    5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm    Medium    OE 15 & 16in    66.10    12mmx1.25    17-18in    15-25mm
4    1989    Nissan    300ZX    5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm    Medium    OE 15 & 16in    66.10    12mmx1.25    17-18in    15-25mm
5    2008    Ford    Ranger    5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm    Medium    OE 15 & 16in    70.60    1/2inx20    17-22in    15-25mm
6    2007    Ford    Ranger    5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm    Medium    OE 15 & 16in    70.60    1/2inx20    17-22in    15-25mm
7    2006    Ford    Ranger    5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm    Medium    OE 15 & 16in    70.60    1/2inx20    17-22in    15-25mm
8    2005    Ford    Ranger    5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm    Medium    OE 15 & 16in    70.60    1/2inx20    17-22in    15-25mm
9    2004    Ford    Ranger    5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm    Medium    OE 15 & 16in    70.60    1/2inx20    17-22in    15-25mm
10    2003    Ford    Ranger    5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm    Medium    OE 15 & 16in    70.60    1/2inx20    17-22in    15-25mm
11    2006    Jeep    Wrangler    5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm    Medium    OE 15 & 16in    71.50    1/2inx20    17-24in    15-25mm
12    2005    Jeep    Wrangler    5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm    Medium    OE 15 & 16in    71.50    1/2inx20    17-24in    15-25mm
13    2004    Jeep    Wrangler    5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm    Medium    OE 15 & 16in    71.50    1/2inx20    17-24in    15-25mm
14    2003    Jeep    Wrangler    5x4.50in - 5x114.3mm    Medium    OE 15 & 16in    71.50    1/2inx20    17-24in    15-25mm
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2011, 01:24:57 PM »
My 2001 KJ has 16's.
I would think a trip to your local yard should produce something. I don't know what they get for wheels. But the 15's are getting harder to find!
What's the offset/BS on those?  I don't think some people know how to measure correctly.
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2011, 01:29:34 PM »
http://ventura.craigslist.org/pts/2106668367.html

Here is some 16's.
Those are 5 on 5 from a JK.  I need 5 on 4.5"/5x114.3mm
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2011, 01:31:05 PM »
What's the offset/BS on those?  I don't think some people know how to measure correctly.

I have no idea what the BS is.
You measure the BS by laying the wheel (no tire on) with the face of the wheel on the ground. Lay a straight edge across the wheel from edge to edge (lip to lip) With a tape or ruler measure from the straight edge to the mount surface of the wheel.

Let me know if your interested in those 16's. Or If I can find some 15's local. We can work out something to get them to you.

Never mind on those 16's  :brick:
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2011, 01:32:21 PM »
Those are 5 on 5 from a JK.  I need 5 on 4.5"/5x114.3mm

For some reason I was thinking 97, not 07.  :fish:
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2011, 01:37:34 PM »
Here's a Rubicon running KJ 16x7's.  Only 235/85R16's though.





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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2011, 01:40:34 PM »
http://ventura.craigslist.org/pts/2139412652.html   AL Ranger wheels.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/pts/2168827765.html  Not sure where these  are located. Area code 310.
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2011, 01:51:26 PM »
I have no idea what the BS is.
You measure the BS by laying the wheel (no tire on) with the face of the wheel on the ground. Lay a straight edge across the wheel from edge to edge (lip to lip) With a tape or ruler measure from the straight edge to the mount surface of the wheel.

Let me know if your interested in those 16's. Or If I can find some 15's local. We can work out something to get them to you.

Never mind on those 16's  :brick:
Really, you want to measure the offset and the backspacing as they aren't the same.  The wheel width is measured from bead seat to bead seat and not rim to rim.  The offset is measured off the inboard bead seat.  The backspacing is measured off the rim though.  So you get anywhere from .25"-.5" difference based on the thickness of the material and how the outboard flange is made.

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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2011, 01:52:15 PM »
http://ventura.craigslist.org/pts/2139412652.html   AL Ranger wheels.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/pts/2168827765.html  Not sure where these  are located. Area code 310.
I'm looking for steel wheels, OEM style.
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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2011, 02:05:39 PM »
I'm looking for steel wheels, OEM style.

Aren't there a few styles out there??  My original ones were the 9-slot ones....


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