Topic: Axles??

[No Luck]

Ok I may go the route of doing the 8.8. Should I be ok with wheeling till I can get that cause I would rather get my lift and wheels and tires and such before swapping axles. Also this may sound dumb but what gears does my jeep have stock and do your frontand rear gears have to match?

Lot's of great info here. http://jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?t=371713

[4BangerTJ]

Ok here is my question now. You guys make the 8.8 swap sound super easy but then I look at that link and it says I need a ton of stuff not just the brackets. Here is the list I got so if you guys can tell me if I need it all or not that woul be helpful.

Bracket kit

Master install kit

Brake line kit

T hose

TJ rubicon brake cable

ZJ e brake cable

Driveshaft adapter spicer

Flange bolts

TJ rubicon propotioning valve

60 inches or so of hard brake line.

[No Luck]

You will need the bracket kit about $250, drive shaft adapter about $35, one brake rubber hose passenger side I think 15 to $20, I was the one that started using the TJ Rubi E brake cables about $75 and some hard lines

The rest you don't need.

[FourbangerYJ]

Ok here is my question now. You guys make the 8.8 swap sound super easy but then I look at that link and it says I need a ton of stuff not just the brackets. Here is the list I got so if you guys can tell me if I need it all or not that woul be helpful.

Bracket kit

Master install kit

Brake line kit

T hose

TJ rubicon brake cable

ZJ e brake cable

Driveshaft adapter spicer

Flange bolts

TJ rubicon propotioning valve

60 inches or so of hard brake line.

http://www.mountainoffroad.com/_e/Ford_8_8_rear_axle_Install_Kit/product/98700/98700_Ford_8_8_Axle_Swap_Kit_for_1997_2006_TJ.htm

They have everything you need. They list the other things that might be needed at the bottom of that link. Shop around for prices as they vary. These guy's made the 8.8 swap popular, I am sure the prices can be beat.

I don't know where you got your info but all those things listed are not needed.

[FourbangerYJ]

http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/showthread.php?t=535475

Here is a fully built 8.8 for $1400. You could just bolt it in barring driveshaft mods. You would need to regear the front to 4.88.

[No Luck]

By the time you buy the rearend and all the parts to put it in than add labor you might be better off to go here.

http://eastcoastgearsupply.com/i-2763540-ford-8-8-rear-axle-bolt-in-tj-assembly.html

I know when I did mine the 8.8 it cost me 250, brackets 225 and all the other parts to bolt it in  ran it up right over $600 and those are just the parts to put it in. while I was at it I rebuilt the LSD, put new gears in all new bearings and brake pads bunch more money, and that not including my time it would of been easier to just get a 44 out of a TJ.

The 8.8 worked for my needs, but if I could have found a 44 out of a TJ it would of been put in.

[TexWalther]

http://eastcoastgearsupply.com/i-2763540-ford-8-8-rear-axle-bolt-in-tj-assembly.html
http://www.americanlisted.com/vermont_45/car_parts_3/bolt_in_jeep_tj_ford_8_8_axle_assembly_550_durham_nc_14641268.html
A month ago I had found a guy an a forum selling them.ready to go for 550 searched for a while but couldn't come across it
So what other axles do our more experienced guys use? Have seen pictures of keeps with full. Width axles and this thread has got me curious as.to what else is out there and what advantages do.they offer?

[enginethatcould]

Two questions;

1) how deep can you gear the d30?

2) I have never torn a drum brake apart. The isuzu d44 I have the ebrake cable is cut. Should the d35 cable fit??

[4BangerTJ]

that eastcostsupply thread is crap. they want 600 plus 200 handling and its just a bare axle with noe gears. it has the brake and inners but no gears or lsd at all. for 800? that's crap. oh and I got that lis from that link at the top of the page. I would do a rubicon axle but for the price the 8.8 is cheaper and stronger. the 8.8 might cost 600 plus the 4.88 gears and locker but the rubicon is 1100 or so and has t be regeared too and it is a weaker axle according to what I read.

[sharpxmen]

Two questions;

1) how deep can you gear the d30?

2) I have never torn a drum brake apart. The isuzu d44 I have the ebrake cable is cut. Should the d35 cable fit??

D30 goes as high as 4.88 if you have the correct carrier (can't remember what the cut was for going up though, i think it was 3.73 but i'm not sure).

Ideally you would use your cables if they fit, I doubt that the sleeve and cable length from isuzu would work on your Jeep - if the hookup of the cable and the sleeve seat is the same you can use your existing one but i have no idea how the isuzu is like (post some pics though).

[No Luck]

Well they say its weaker anyways, I haven't broke my 44s yet running 35s. unless you go to a super 8.8 axles you will have c-clips. And I hate those you also get a diff that's not centered and you get some vibrations from that.

Like I said if I could of found a 44 out of a TJ I would of went there for my SE. My Rubicon has the 44 as my Sahara and I have had no problems with them.

[No Luck]

the rubicon is 1100 or so and has t be regeared too

If it is a Rubi 44 it will have a locker and that will save you 600 to 800 right there. if you plan one putting in the 8.8

[4BangerTJ]

I see your point. What kind of lockers does the rubicon have and also what gear ratio is it?

[Jeffy]

I see your point. What kind of lockers does the rubicon have and also what gear ratio is it?

Japanese made.  I forget the actual company.  The rear is a LSD when 'open' and locked when closed.  You will need a low volume air pump for the locker though.

4:10's in the Rubicon's.

[4BangerTJ]

So its an air locker. Hell I have no clue how to set up one of those. Hell really when you look at it no matter which on you go with its gonna be 1500 or so all said and done.