Topic: "DIY Jeep painting and color matching" Follow up

[Mozman68]

[Jeffy]

Looks kind of pink in the pictures....      is that your secret Jeep painting spot, in the middle of a dirt trail? 

[lanulos89]

looks kind blue to me

Looks kind of pink in the pictures....      is that your secret Jeep painting spot, in the middle of a dirt trail? 

[chrisfranklin]

Its greyish/white.  At least that's what the can said.

I know that looks idiotic right?  Dirt road, catch some wind, dirt in the paint etc, right.  But it is surrounded by hills and there is little wind at that spot.  Looks like basically a spot where locals dump their construction debris, beat up sofas or whatever so I haven't been on the receiving end of any guff for doing the work there.

I've got a car wash  about 4 miles away, have washed the thing down at several points after sanding.  Its all gone well, cleanly so far with the bodywork, sanding, primer application.  Bought in extensive supplies and carted out all trash etc.  If there were better, easier, cleaner spots I woulda done it a long time ago 

[gomi]

Don't know if you got to painting it yet, but if you haven't I was just looking at a site were the guy painted his jeep at home with rattle can paint. I think it was rustoleum hammered or textured finish...it actually looks great. He has a whole write up on his site, pics are halfway down the page. Finished pics are on page 5. Anyways, just seeing if I could help.    http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=427211&page=3

[Jeffy]

Don't know if you got to painting it yet, but if you haven't I was just looking at a site were the guy painted his jeep at home with rattle can paint. I think it was rustoleum hammered or textured finish...it actually looks great. He has a whole write up on his site, pics are halfway down the page. Finished pics are on page 5. Anyways, just seeing if I could help.    http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=427211&page=3

Hmm, interesting.  The Hammered finish would hide any imperfections which would be a huge plus. I prefer Hammerite brand since it also very tough because it is made up of crushed glass.  No need to prime and it stops rust dead.  That looks to be Hammered black.  It comes out a dark gunmetal.  I used it on my rear axle.  Love the stuff.

[gomi]

Don't know if you got to painting it yet, but if you haven't I was just looking at a site were the guy painted his jeep at home with rattle can paint. I think it was rustoleum hammered or textured finish...it actually looks great. He has a whole write up on his site, pics are halfway down the page. Finished pics are on page 5. Anyways, just seeing if I could help.    http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=427211&page=3

Hmm, interesting.  The Hammered finish would hide any imperfections which would be a huge plus. I prefer Hammerite brand since it also very tough because it is made up of crushed glass.  No need to prime and it stops rust dead.  That looks to be Hammered black.  It comes out a dark gunmetal.  I used it on my rear axle.  Love the stuff.

yeah, he has some close ups on there and it looks pretty good.

[chrisfranklin]

Thanks Gomi. That hammered silver does look pretty good.  I might look at the hammered black to roll-on

[Mozman68]

Sweet...I never thought of painting with textured paint.  I just added textured paint as an option on my product at work.  Costs more but ends up saving us a ton of money spent on re-work since it hides welds that weren't ground down enough.  Would be awesome on the Jeep.

[Rokcrwln]

I used the hammered finish (black) on my roll cage and it turned out great.
I'm going to repaint my bumpers, it's great to hide any blemishes or rough spots.
I used the brush on because I didn't have a place to spray and the hammered finish doesn't show any brush marks.

[chrisfranklin]

It looks like the hammered Rustoleum doesn't involve any sanding. Just roll it on, spray it on, go a few coats for coverage.  With off-the-shelf spray, there's none of the thinning either. 

If it turns out that the quarts of Blue Water Poly I have isn't compatible with Rusto Primer I already have on there, then I figure I'll just do the hammered black.

[gomi]

I think you should go with the spray, I have used both and I think for the entire body, the spray has a much finer texture. It will still haid imperfections and go on easily, but the hammered texture is much finer and will look more polished I think.

[chrisfranklin]

Yeah, but Gomi, don't be angry with me if I follow through with using the 3 quarts of Gloss Black Polyurethane I already have.       Mine is a daily driver and 98% on the street serving mostly as a convertible.  Sad but true   

[chrisfranklin]

"Uh, Chris, you are going to be using oil based polyurethane paint and clearcoat, so make sure that primer you applied is oil-based and not water-based."  This is what I wish I could have told myself a week ago. 

Starting anew on this paintjob (following my initial spraycan debacle months ago), I went over the bodywork again and again with Evercoat products.  Took a lot of work/sanding/checking and rechecking 6 times over 10 different filled areas, but the it turned out well.
Then I followed up with the grey Primer as seen in photos previously. 

Initially, I read through the write-ups on roll-on paint jobs and these said apply primer, so that's what I was looking to do.  I went to the Hardware store and bought a Rustoleum Primer product thinking, "Rustoleum is good, can't go wrong with Rustoleum Primer, right?"

The Rustoleum primer I bought said it was appliable to metals, etc.  And I wanted to get something on the Jeep over this hodge-podge of scratched black paint and evercoat that was its current shabby cover. 

I thought it turned out well; I sanded out the orange peal and it looked like I was ready to thin/roll-on/sand multiple polyurethane topcoats.  Well not so fast. 

I find out the primer I used is Rustoleum's Painter's Touch -- a water-based latex.  Its pretty obvious that you don't want to use this stuff under oil based paints like my Polyurethane.  So, I have to strip the water based primer now and then redo the Jeep with an oil-based primer -- basically standard Rustoleum "Oil-Based" Professional Primer.   

If any of you guys ever consider roll-painting/Spraying an old Jeep on the cheap using Rustoleum/Tremclad (Oil-Based) or Interlux-type PolyUrethanes (Oil-Based), don't make the mistake of using a water-based Primer! 
 

[aw12345]

It is best to buy all of your paint supplies at a auto paint supply store so you can ask them about incompatibilities of products. It such a pain when your underlaying paint/primes disolves and swells up. I am much better at body work then painting, have done some carpainting and caused some paint disasters haha but it sucks when it goes wrong