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Re: Turbochargers
« Reply #300 on: April 02, 2010, 07:35:48 PM »
awesome. another 150 for more injectors. Anyone hiring cause I need to make more money lol. I'm headed to the Casino. Who's with me?!!! I'll check those sights out. Thanks

did you ask the dyno guys how much for 1 pull so you can baseline? they can also tell you how much lean or rich and so on (they'll give you a printout).
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« Reply #301 on: April 03, 2010, 12:34:39 AM »
You definitely need to cool down the charge air from the turbo! That is one thing Air Sierra is doing
(intercooler) that you are not, it makes a HUGE difference. Have you dropped the heat range of your
plugs a couple ranges colder? Although my OBD1 2.5 ECU is different than yours I am running injectors
similar in size to the injectors you have in conjunction with water/methanol injection. I have had no
problems with leaning out whatsoever since I added the water/methanol and I run 8# of boost without
pulling timing. Water/methanol injection will cool your charge air down more than an intercooler plus give
you a much higher octane rating.
Here are two articles on water/methanol injection:
http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.com/a11/116+-Octane-With-Water-Injection!/article_info.html
http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.com/a10/Knock-Knock.-Who-is-the-there...-Detonation!/article_info.html
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« Reply #302 on: April 03, 2010, 11:55:36 AM »
The dyno is included in the tuning price. I'm sure they will do a baseline pull then go from there. The links for the water meth injection didn't work on my computer. Does that inject right into the intake? How much does that cost? I have a stock eclipse intercooler that I will use and mount it inside the engine compartment. It won't be that great but it will be something. I might be able to get my hands on two of them and possibly put them both in. We'll see if there is enough room. gonna be a couple weeks out for the tune

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Re: Turbochargers
« Reply #303 on: April 03, 2010, 12:38:36 PM »
The dyno is included in the tuning price. I'm sure they will do a baseline pull then go from there. The links for the water meth injection didn't work on my computer. Does that inject right into the intake? How much does that cost? I have a stock eclipse intercooler that I will use and mount it inside the engine compartment. It won't be that great but it will be something. I might be able to get my hands on two of them and possibly put them both in. We'll see if there is enough room. gonna be a couple weeks out for the tune

for 6psi you're probably fine with just 1 of them
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« Reply #304 on: April 03, 2010, 02:20:07 PM »
The dyno is included in the tuning price. I'm sure they will do a baseline pull then go from there. The links for the water meth injection didn't work on my computer. Does that inject right into the intake? How much does that cost? I have a stock eclipse intercooler that I will use and mount it inside the engine compartment. It won't be that great but it will be something. I might be able to get my hands on two of them and possibly put them both in. We'll see if there is enough room. gonna be a couple weeks out for the tune
Try this: www.alcoholinjectionsystems.com  and read the "116+ Octane With Water Injection" and the "Knock Knock....Who's There?" link in that article.

It injects into the charge air pipe approx 6" before the throttle body on my setup. For the stage 1 kit from AIS its $239.00 US. I run the 1gph nozzle and inject -30 or -40 windshield washer fluid.

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« Reply #305 on: April 04, 2010, 02:40:50 PM »
Right now on ebay you can get a water/methanol injection kit from Cooling Mist for $160.00 + $32.00 shipping.
150psi pump, boost activated adjustable switch, check valve, nozzle, tubing, wire & fuse mounting hardware.

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« Reply #306 on: April 04, 2010, 09:30:10 PM »
Windshield washer fluid? Interesting. That is a good price. I got a wrx top mount intercooler that will work pretty good. Just have to do a slight patch job on the plastic end piece with some resin. Not a big deal. going to get it in this weekend hopefully. should I use water/meth injection in conjunction with intercooler?

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« Reply #307 on: April 04, 2010, 09:39:44 PM »
Windshield washer fluid? Interesting. That is a good price. I got a wrx top mount intercooler that will work pretty good. Just have to do a slight patch job on the plastic end piece with some resin. Not a big deal. going to get it in this weekend hopefully. should I use water/meth injection in conjunction with intercooler?

you can use both, there's no harm in that

where are you going to mount the intercooler?
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« Reply #308 on: April 04, 2010, 11:20:38 PM »
Windshield washer fluid? Interesting. That is a good price. I got a wrx top mount intercooler that will work pretty good. Just have to do a slight patch job on the plastic end piece with some resin. Not a big deal. going to get it in this weekend hopefully. should I use water/meth injection in conjunction with intercooler?

Yes windshield washer fluid, make sure to read the label to make sure it has methyl alcohol some brands have a type of anti-freeze instead. Water/meth. and an intercooler even better, especially during the really hot weather we get. I live approx 300 mi. north of you.

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« Reply #309 on: April 05, 2010, 08:24:06 PM »
I Live in spokane wa. you would be in canada then. I am going to put the intercooler so that it barely catches the fan maybe in front of the motor. that way it will still catch a draft when i'm not going very fast. We'll see. In the middle of a remodel so time is short some nights. I'll see about working some overtime at work to get the water/meth injection too.

Just a side note. Anyone catch the latest "dangerous drives" episode? It was about AEV's new test jeep. They went on a 500 mile trip in Moab Utah to test it out. Of course they had their Jeep Brute with the Hemi. I think all 3 jeeps they had had hemi's. I was drooling the entire show. I would love to put a hemi in my jeep.

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« Reply #310 on: April 05, 2010, 08:52:34 PM »
I Live in spokane wa. you would be in canada then. I am going to put the intercooler so that it barely catches the fan maybe in front of the motor. that way it will still catch a draft when i'm not going very fast.

put it in front of the rad, otherwise you'll heat up the air when you're not in boost or at low boost levels (your intercooler would be exposed to the hot air coming thru the rad).
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« Reply #311 on: April 05, 2010, 11:15:11 PM »
put it in front of the rad, otherwise you'll heat up the air when you're not in boost or at low boost levels (your intercooler would be exposed to the hot air coming thru the rad).


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« Reply #312 on: April 06, 2010, 09:14:57 PM »
Its a space issue. I have to see if it fits and where to route the piping. Don't be surprised with a pic of a PVC piped intake at first lol. But ya that would be the ideal place to put on. St.chevy, you ever come to the states?

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Re: Turbochargers
« Reply #313 on: April 06, 2010, 09:37:33 PM »
Its a space issue. I have to see if it fits and where to route the piping. Don't be surprised with a pic of a PVC piped intake at first lol. But ya that would be the ideal place to put on. St.chevy, you ever come to the states?


this is what i ended up with





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Re: Turbochargers
« Reply #314 on: April 11, 2010, 02:53:32 PM »
Right now on ebay you can get a water/methanol injection kit from Cooling Mist for $160.00 + $32.00 shipping.
150psi pump, boost activated adjustable switch, check valve, nozzle, tubing, wire & fuse mounting hardware.

I orderded the cooling mist kit, they ask, "Tell us your horsepower or receive the standard 380 CC injector." What injector are you running?