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Re: Turbochargers
« Reply #375 on: May 29, 2010, 05:31:56 PM »
Ya. I'm gonna find a fan to put on it or just do an water to air intercooler. Its just acting like a makesift radiator right now. I noticed a difference right off the bat with how it ran. Its just temp.

will work for a short period until it heats up, after that will be just like before
EDIT: Here's an idea - control the cooling fan with the FTC1 - remember that there's a wire (i think was the orange one) that allows you to switch an external load based on MAP reading and rpm, so just have it turn on once you go over 1 psi or so.

BTW. got the fuel controller hooked up just now. Gonna start it here in a few minutes.

alright  :thumb: - can't wait to hear details.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2010, 05:35:02 PM by sharpxmen »
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« Reply #376 on: May 29, 2010, 06:32:42 PM »
Ok. It runs. Just took it for a test drive.Everything is still the same cause i haven't changed any parameters yet. I'll let the pros do that. As for now. I'm just happy its in.

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« Reply #377 on: May 29, 2010, 08:05:55 PM »
Ok. It runs. Just took it for a test drive.Everything is still the same cause i haven't changed any parameters yet. I'll let the pros do that. As for now. I'm just happy its in.

did you check how the map looks like - i would suggest saving it first as it probably came preloaded with a base map.

glad it works, now that you installed it they can give you a discount on tuning :)

when are you taking it in to the shop?
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« Reply #378 on: May 30, 2010, 02:53:28 AM »
Glad you have big progress. As far as intercooler is concern, i saw guys running turbo without hood installed. May be it will help with airflow through the cooler, at least at the first tests.

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« Reply #379 on: May 30, 2010, 10:02:38 AM »
There is no pre loaded software. It is all blank. It runs kinda crappy but it usually does for the first couple days after i have the battery terminals off for a while. I'm gonna call the shop tuesday (assuming they will be closed for memorial day) hopefully they can get me in soon. should only be about 300 for tuning. 

I just need to save more money for a better intercooler. Of course tires are first concern. Lift is already on the way

thanks for all your hep guys. i'll let you know what the numbers are

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« Reply #380 on: May 30, 2010, 11:01:11 AM »
There is no pre loaded software. It is all blank. It runs kinda crappy but it usually does for the first couple days after i have the battery terminals off for a while. I'm gonna call the shop tuesday (assuming they will be closed for memorial day) hopefully they can get me in soon. should only be about 300 for tuning. 

I just need to save more money for a better intercooler. Of course tires are first concern. Lift is already on the way

thanks for all your hep guys. i'll let you know what the numbers are


hey, can't wait to see the numbers - make sure they give you all the printouts with power, torque, temps and BSFC - not sure if they can give you the ignition advance as well but that would also be interesting.
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« Reply #381 on: May 30, 2010, 02:33:54 PM »

hey, can't wait to see the numbers - make sure they give you all the printouts with power, torque, temps and BSFC - not sure if they can give you the ignition advance as well but that would also be interesting.

AFR too, forgot about that one.
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« Reply #382 on: May 31, 2010, 10:47:12 PM »
hey  i was going through the r4 software again and realized that its not reading the rpm. yet it runs. if a connection wasnt right wouldnt it not run? any ideas. also i would like to have  some kind of base values to make it easier for the man to tune it.

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« Reply #383 on: May 31, 2010, 11:06:52 PM »
hey  i was going through the r4 software again and realized that its not reading the rpm. yet it runs. if a connection wasnt right wouldnt it not run? any ideas. also i would like to have  some kind of base values to make it easier for the man to tune it.

did you connect to the device? did you set it as 1 cyl 4 stroke? is it reading the MAP sensor?

first you need to create a new customer from File>New Customer

then click on connect to ECU button (select the appropriate COM port)

once you connect to the device (FTC1) you have to go into options>system settings and select programmable signal calibrator under the application and vacuum/pressure under display options

then go into options>engine settings and select 1 cylinder 4 stroke

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then go into Maps>Fuel Maps and click on Read Data from ECU (it is one of the 2 buttons on top left of the window) - you should see a predefined map in there, if all the values are 10 in MAP A and all values are 0 (zero) in MAP B it means it is working as nothing would be there (just like stock, transparent, so it means it came with no predefined maps) with the only exception that now you have a 2 bar MAP sensor. If you have different values than 10 and zero respectively in some cells in the 2 maps then it means it has a predefined map(s) loaded, click on file>close customer and then make a copy of the mdb file so you have it saved. If the values are default (10 and 0) then i suggest sending an email to sales at splitsec and ask them for base maps but you'll need to give them your engine details (boost, rpm vs boost, injector size and stock injector size, they'll be able to send you something to start your tuning). I looked for my map but i can't find it, i think i have it saved on my old laptop which is refusing to boot at this time. Let me know if they won't send you one and i'll try to see if i can get the maps off the harddrive somehow.
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« Reply #384 on: June 01, 2010, 12:35:33 PM »
I made another purchase, was on my list for a long time but i didn't get around to do it

it's a knock detection unit from TurboXS - works with 2 wire Bosch OEM sensors and it is tunable (sensitivity and curve levels) for best results. It also has (and that's what sold me on it) a knock detection output that can be logged, basically a wire that gives 0v when there's no pinging/knock and 12v impulse when a knock is detected - i can feed this into my Innovate SSI-4 to log the output along with RPM and boost (MAP sensor reading) to fine tune the FTC1 timing retard. As a bonus it also has a RPM shift light that can be programmed - will turn the LED to Green when the preset RPM is reached. When a light knock is detected the LED will turn amber, detecting a normal knock will turn the LED red.

http://turboxs.com/more_info.php?ID=212
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« Reply #385 on: June 01, 2010, 01:20:27 PM »
wow. you have all kinds of electronics hooked up. I called Splitsec. I missed a part in the instructions to read data from unit. Also the yellow black wire gets hooked up the cam signal wire to pcm for the tach. and got to make sure it is set on 1cyl4stroke like you said.

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« Reply #386 on: June 01, 2010, 04:31:16 PM »
wow. you have all kinds of electronics hooked up. I called Splitsec. I missed a part in the instructions to read data from unit. Also the yellow black wire gets hooked up the cam signal wire to pcm for the tach. and got to make sure it is set on 1cyl4stroke like you said.

so you need to connect both tan/yellow and yellow/black to the cam signal? I don't have the yellow/black, they are probably connected together internally in my case.
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« Reply #387 on: June 01, 2010, 05:16:07 PM »
I made another purchase, was on my list for a long time but i didn't get around to do it

it's a knock detection unit from TurboXS - works with 2 wire Bosch OEM sensors and it is tunable (sensitivity and curve levels) for best results. It also has (and that's what sold me on it) a knock detection output that can be logged, basically a wire that gives 0v when there's no pinging/knock and 12v impulse when a knock is detected - i can feed this into my Innovate SSI-4 to log the output along with RPM and boost (MAP sensor reading) to fine tune the FTC1 timing retard. As a bonus it also has a RPM shift light that can be programmed - will turn the LED to Green when the preset RPM is reached. When a light knock is detected the LED will turn amber, detecting a normal knock will turn the LED red.

http://turboxs.com/more_info.php?ID=212


and i just bought a knock sensor for it from eBay for $16 shipped - Bosch Knock Sensor for Saab 900 / Volvo 240 / Porsche 944, Bosch P/N 0261231006
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« Reply #388 on: June 02, 2010, 06:05:30 PM »
Nice. Made an appointment today for next wed for the tune. I'm excited. I also bought my wheels and tires today. had to get new rims cause mine are too thin. 

Here is a pick

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« Reply #389 on: June 02, 2010, 08:14:08 PM »
Nice. Made an appointment today for next wed for the tune. I'm excited. I also bought my wheels and tires today. had to get new rims cause mine are too thin. 

Here is a pick

nice rims.

so did you end up looking at the loaded fuel and timing maps? were they preset or not?
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